Motorists able to lock in low petrol prices for 24 hours under Victoria’s new ‘fair fuel’ plan

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• Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  For me anything that helps out petrol car drivers is bad as it inadvertently encourages less people to move to EV’s

  but good for people who still drive petrol drinkers

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  • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I get what you’re saying, but by the same logic, anything that encourages adoption of EVs (or continued use of petrol/diesel vehicles) is bad because it ultimately encourages less people to just use PT

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    • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I get what you’re saying, but by the same logic, anything that encourages adoption of EVs (or continued use of petrol/diesel vehicles) is bad because it ultimately encourages less people to just use PT

      I’m not necessarily encouraging adoption of EV’s I’m discouraging petrol cars via cheaper petrol prices although I do argue for far cheaper electricity rates which will increase EV adoption but it is what it is

      I’m also not 100% sure encouraging people to use PT has any effect, people use cars because they allow you to go to anywhere you want at any time of the day or night or public holidays or unions in sydney striking etc right from your front door, PT cannot compete with this especially in Australia where everything is so far apart

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  • Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The only EVs that are better for the environment than ICE are shared EVs (like Trains, Trams and Electric Buses) and ultralight EVs (like e-bikes and cargo e-bikes).

    Driving a Lithium battery EV full-sized car is just shifting the environmental damage to different locations and cost centres.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nah. Any EV is definitely better than ICE. It’s just a very small improvement over ICE compared to public and active transport. It’s like…if ICE is a 10, EV is a 9, a train is a 4, and a bike is a 2.

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    • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      EVs powered entirely by black coal are still more efficient than ICE engines

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    • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It reduces co2 output and for me that’s the most important thing at the moment especially here in Australia where everything is built around cars

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    For me anything that helps ev car drivers is bad as it inadvertently encourages less people to take PT’s.

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    • kudra@aus.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      @Deceptichum @Eyekaytee I drive my EV to and from the city from rural Victoria where PT is half an hour drive from my home, park it and take PT around town, or ebike. You may find name EV drivers are pretty pro-bike and pro-PT, they aren't mutually exclusive.

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• pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They should force fuel prices to be locked for 7 days. Changing it on a daily basis is bullshit.

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• Antiarturd@endlesstalk.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ah yes let’s pollute more.

  I wish we could bomb countries doing this kind of shit

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• Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m sure that this will mean that instead of fuel prices being inflated on the Friday Morning before a long weekend, they will be inflated on the Thursday Morning before a long weekend.

  This will mean that that those people who fill up on Payday will be paying the inflated price, even if they are organised and plan ahead.

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Everyone gets paid on different days. Those filing up on pay day may or may not have already had to pay the inflated price depends on the day they get paid.

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Am I the only one who just fills up whenever the tank is almost empty instead of on some kind of set schedule?

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    • Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You are right, but the greater majority of people who are sensitive to fluctuating petrol prices are either PAYE employees and get paid on Wednesday or Thursday or living off government payments, which are also paid on Thursdays.

      People who are Salaried are more likely to have a company car or company fuel card, which means that they are not affected by fuel price fluctuations.

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  • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yep! Isn’t it great?!?

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    • chis_r@aus.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      @Baku @Salvo It also means consumers have to rely on checking an app ahead of time, so it's simply another piece of admin that people will have to manage on top of everything else. Lovely!

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