Argentinian here… Most of the immigration here, like 85%, is Spanish and Italian (pre and post wars). My family came here before 1920, from different parts of Spain, like it happened in the US and many countries across the continent. That said, it’s true many nazis came here to hide after the war, some more hidden than others but most were not in Buenos Aires because they could be easily exposed. This happened also in Chile, Paraguay and Brazil. Why this happened? Probably contacts with the governments and even today South America has almost zero immigration control, nazi or not. Another less known fact is that Argentina has one of the biggest Jewish communities. You can Google it 😊
Carlos Goebbels
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highhomes1994@lemmy.world 1 year ago
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Wasn’t there already a German population before WW2 because there is a small patch in Argentina with similar climate to Germany?
highhomes1994@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes, absolutely. In the second census (1895), 25% of the population was immigrants, mainly Spanish and Italian, but from other parts of Europe as well. Argentina is a large country with a lot of different landscapes, weather, etc. and back then it was promising. Also immigrants were not looking for a perfect place, just a place to raise their families with better conditions than the ones they had in Europe at the time
warmaster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That small patch is bigger than Germany. 🤣
boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Argentina during that time is like the US now - such a promising country. People immigrate there in flock.
HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Actually, America currently has a refugee crisis of people who want to leave
Auduras@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A picture of Mussolini could work also, so many Argentinians I know have Italian last names (as well as German).
TheControlled@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I knew a Rommel from Mexico. Cool guy. He explained that Rommel was evil, just a General at war. He attempted an assassination plot that failed and he had to choose if he wanted his family to die, or if he should only die. Guess what he chose…
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 year ago
If you meant “wasn’t” like the rest of your comment implies, incorrect. Rommel is someone Wehrmacht apologists (or people with his last name) like to make excuses for, but he was a bad, bad dude, if nothing else for being a huge Hitler fanboy well into the Holocaust, of which he was very aware.
If you want some light reading…
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth
Wikipedia tries to stay unbiased on the topic but the simple reality is the only way a Wehrmacht officer didn’t participate in genocide was by being dead in 1938, and if you think a field marshal could have clean hands I have a bridge to sell you.
The Rommel myth has better basis that most but it’s still a legacy of Cold War realpolitik as the Allies scrambled to politically justify leaving the monstrous establishments of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan relatively intact to use against the Comintern.
They wanted idiots to say “Well, look at Rommel, the Wehrmacht officer class wasn’t ALL bad, we can’t execute them all!”
TheControlled@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fuck me! I’ve been bamboozled and my old buddy from Mexico is named after a real son of a bitch. Thanks for educating me!
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
RIP family but you can always make a new one eh
Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s what they want you to think so they can appear more “Aryan”
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I didn’t say it didn’t happen, just that it’s a lot more uncommon than what Argentinians want you to think
abii@feddit.de 1 year ago
"Mexicans came from the indian people, Brazilians came from the jungle, but we, the Argentinians came from the boats, and were boats that came from there, Europe. And that’s how we built our society."
- Alberto Fernandez, former president of Argentina
candio@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]Ryan213@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t get it. Why?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Argentinia wasn’t forcibly denazified after the war and was sympathetic to fascism and so a lot of Nazis and fascists fled there to avoid prison or the rope. Mengele lived in buenos Aries until the 90s.
Compare this to francoist spain which always knew it had to walk a tight line because so long as they were ostensibly more on the side of the Allies than the axis they could get away with shit like having their white terror and various other fascist governances.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
His parents came over pre-war, but it blew my mind when I found out the former dictator of Peru (Alberto Fujimori) was of Japanese ancestry.
I mean there’s no reason why an ethnically Japanese man can’t rule Peru, but it still was not something I expected at all.
Maybe it’s just personal prejudice?
yeather@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Bro was doing side quests when Japan was fucking up the main game attacking Pearl harbor.
InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 1 year ago
There’s a lot going on with Peru’s presidents. Another one was of polish ethnicity, another one shot himself and they recently impeached their 4th(?) president in the last 4 years. Also one of the few places I’ve seen that has a jail only for ex presidents.
Skelectrician@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
The first president of Ireland was an American of partial Spanish descent.