If Australians knew the whole truth about Indigenous history, Lidia Thorpe’s royal outburst would not have been a shock | Celeste Liddle

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• Tau@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Last year, Australia showed how unengaged and racist this country remains by refusing to insert an Indigenous advisory voice

  Convenient that the author forgot to mention that the very person they’re writing about was a vocal No voter. You can say many things about Lydia Thorpe but politically unengaged is not one of them, and while she might be a little bit racist it’s definitely not against Indigenous people.

  I’ll also note that the Tent Embassy had a giant banner hung up urging people to vote No, guess they’re all politically unengaged and racist…

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  • NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s true, although she wanted a different voice and treaty right?

    If you look at where majority no came from you’d have a hard time convincing me it was because people thought the voice wasn’t radical enough.

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  • yistdaj@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lidia Thorpe has also believed before the vote that a No vote would prove Australia is racist, just as a yes vote would prove Australia is racist. Given that, I think Lidia would agree with the author here.

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    • yistdaj@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To clarify, Lidia claimed that both the racist no campaign and the yes campaign drowned out the progressive yes campaign.

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• CTDummy@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Last year, Australia showed how unengaged and racist this country remains by refusing to insert an Indigenous advisory voice

  Right those are the option. Either you voted yes or you’re unengaged and racist.

  If I were, like so many others, to believe what it is I have heard and seen since Thorpe took to the floor, I would be convinced she had broken through the barricades, thrown open the doors, stormed to the front and then proceeding to call his majesty everything under the sun. I certainly wouldn’t get the impression that she, as an Australian senator, attended an event she had been duly invited to, engaged in an act of peaceful resistance by turning her back as God Save the King played and then proceeded to yell a few hard truths about the Crown and the history of this country

  This writing is just floundering and bordering on dishonest. While I agree too many people are clutching pearls about it, yelling at the King is what it is. Other First Nations members and elders have stated their disapproval for obvious reasons. While the reactionary “shock” about is tiring this side of it is as well. As pointed out it wouldn’t be with the crown these things would negotiated anyway. It would be with the commonwealth/parliament. So yelling at the king during this sort of ceremony about it is not only inappropriate due the event but due to it being the wrong person to bring this to.

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  • NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right, those are the options. Either you voted yes or you’re unengaged and racist.

    Got another reason?

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    • mranachi@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m inclined to suggest some minor edits… “Either you voted yes or you’re unengaged and/or racist and/or have been manipulated by a brazenly racist no campaign.”

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    • Tau@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The same argument that won the gay marriage plebiscite - people should be equal under the law and, by extension, our constitution.

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    • Naryn@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Loads?

      How about not engaging in racial discrimination which is exactly what the referendum was doing, it was giving a group more power to decide the direction of the country because of their ethnicity.

      It’s blatant racism and an attempt to cement racial superiority in the country by using victim status.

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  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There wasn’t any good reason to vote no, other than you didn’t want rural Aboriginal people to be communicating with the Prime Minister… As that’s all the voice was really about.

    Also, a yes vote would have been a step towards becoming a Republic. So these issues are intertwined.

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    • Naryn@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There wasn’t any good reason to vote no

      Voting yes was explicitly voting for racial supremacy.

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• vacuas@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I know about indigenous history and I was still shocked. She’s unhinged. Not sure how lidia Thorpe gets away with her aggressive outbursts, especially after the racial abuse she spewed at that security guard that one time. She’s disgusting

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  • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No she’s not. It was a protest and it was effective. The King of the United Kingdom and Commonwealth was called out and on a world stage.

    Lidia Thorpe is a legend.

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    • vacuas@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How was it effective?

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    • UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lidia Thorpe is an example of someone who thinks they are superior to everyone else, and who thinks everyone owes her something.

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    • Naryn@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      All it did was show the world that she was a racist.

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• inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I will forever and always be on the side of indigenous people yelling at royalty

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