Submitted 4 months ago by ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net to workreform@lemmy.world
https://lemmy.world/post/17482924
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The ballot effort to increase the minimum wage for tipped workers faces a new challenge as opponents seek to disqualify signatures collected by organizers.
The Massachusetts Restaurant Association filed an objection to several signatures and petition sheets submitted to the secretary of state by the ballot campaign group, One Fair Wage. The signatures were the final hurdle for ballot organizers to get the issue in front of voters in November.
My hair stylist (owns her salon) recently implemented a no-gratuities policy. Everyone has to charge whatever they think is fair to make up for there not being a gratuity and clients know exactly how much the job will cost with no pressure to go higher. This is how everything ought to be.
You’re describing a regular transaction. Maybe next you’ll post sales tax on prices too!
Tipping has lost It’s meaning in the U.S.
I’m gonna reply to this then it’s just gonna ask you a question… Stares off in to space
I give up on trying to understand this
I was at a concert recently and the merch vendor was asking for a tip. It’s like, I bought a t-shirt, why am I tipping you? Did you make the t-shirt yourself?
Even if they did make the shirt… Is that not why they’re selling it?
There’s an episode of impractical jokers that really stuck with me. They pretended as bellhops at a hotel, they instructed each other to be as rude and unhelpful as possible like hopping on the bed with shoes on to change a light bulb, taking a shower after showing the guests the room, etc. 3 out of 4 guests tipped them.
Turning tipped positions into non-tipped positions will push down wages for those formerly tipped positions.
At least when prices went up, servers got a piece. Now restaurant owners will stagnate wages and pocket the increase.
I don’t think anyone is saying we need to not allow tipping, just stop the stupid idea that restaurants can pay less just because an employee is tipped. They shouldn’t be reliant on the good will of people or the social pressure to tip, that should just be an extra.
I mean, I’m saying that.
To me I’ve never understood why sit-down restaurants should be looked at any differently to any other business. Why can’t the actual price just be listed on the menu?
Like, if we’ve collectively decided that the actual price is 20% higher than what is listed, then let’s just treat this like every other profession and raise prices by 20%.
Why are people taking orders and carrying food special? Other customer-facing positions generally don’t get tips. Chefs (who make the food!) generally don’t get tips.
Just pay the waitstaff a fair wage and quit the tipping!
A ton of people, in this thread, are saying tipping should be banned/not a thing.
If the goal is to do away with tipping, I don’t know of another way besides banning it that will be effective.
The provinces of Ontario, Alberta and British Columbia all did away with the seperate (lesser) server wage so that all employees go by a universal minimum wage. I don’t think that changed patrons’ tipping habits one bit.
And servers are still reliant on the good will of people. Ain’t nobody with real expenses getting by with some of these minimum wages. Not with the current cost-of-living.
Ok. So what.
If they can fill the positions at that rate then they should be happy. They can increase prices since consumers don’t tip anymore and pocket the difference.
If you are correct, then the owners wouldn’t be fighting this.
Having a burden to pay your staff is just that - a burden.
It doesnt mean that owners wont make more money, its just a bigger pain in the ass than its worth.
Wait, are you telling me that the market decides wages and we should be happy with it?
That’s capitalist bullshit.
Restaurant owners will increase prices with inflation because it means more profits. Restaurant owners are also notorious for stealing tips and wage theft.
And restaurants that ended tipping (some have) have happier wait staff and management.
Do you own a restaurant?
Do you have a source on that statement?
I do not own a restaurant but am a worker, bartender specifically.
Every restaurant that i know of or have worked in that switches to a non-tipped wage leads to suppressed/lower wages, and that’s from someone who has intimate access to the books.
Pay is definitely more consistent but not as high on average by design.
CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Wont someone think of the soft working executive bonus programs?
Brickhead92@lemmy.world 4 months ago
But don’t forget about the hardworking shareholders either.