Game of Thrones reportedly has an MMO in the works, nearly a decade after the last one was cancelled

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• arandomthought@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Imagine the money they could rake in with this if they hadn’t fucked up the final seasons. Instead this is going to appeal to a pretty narrow audience who sees the series for what it could have been.

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  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That was going to put HBO and DirecTV on the map, they were top tier streaming back then. If you didn’t have HBO you clearly didn’t like quality TV. Netflix was ahead sure in terms of subscribers, but HBO was the elite tier that everyone wanted.

    Now look at it, 7th or 8th tier and bullshit discovery shows. It’s honestly hard for me to think of another company that fucked up the huge of a lead.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Amusingly, this is actually a situation where a lack of studio interference caused the problem. They had offered more episodes, which Dan and Dave declined to make.

      Obviously, the show was on the decline since season 5, but the precipitous drop in quality in the final season was because D&D were rushing to finish it all off. An extra season being forced on them by the studio might have allowed the final 2 seasons to continue the gradual decline in quality instead of jumping off a cliff like it did.

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• alilbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll set aside the theme and tackle the format instead. Is there really an audience for MMORPGs anymore? It was a deadly space to enter when WoW was in its prime. I’m not so sure the MMORPG even “died” as much as slowly diffused into every other genre as live-service capabilities began to spin up. These massive worlds where everyone shares the same story just don’t feel right without a strong ludonarrative dissonance, as opposed to most games that make you the exclusive hero. Sandbox MMOs, on the flip side, rarely have any staying power or purpose. It’s just a really hard design space, in my opinion, when other genres now have all the same benefits of letting you seamlessly play with strangers or friends en masse, without the limitations or side effects of having a single shared world.

  Rambling thoughts for discussion. Also I love MMORPGs, to be clear. I just wouldn’t want to be in the business of making one after about 2010.

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  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    F2P & "micro" transactions completely killed the genre for me. They also had a tendency to be way too samey in their theme park structure / formula. Sandbox ones imo aren't feasible today anymore either though because the whole mainstream aspect brought just the worst of people into those games. So they kinda turn from a game with interesting possibilities into a pure pvp gank feast.

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    • alilbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The first part is not something I’m going to lay at the feet of this genre. Every category has them and it can be done fairly or poorly by any game, really.

      I’m with you on the second part. Can you even design a game that empowers the player while every other player shares an almost identical story and you are seeing that all the time? Again, ludonarrative dissonance in the extreme and that’s not something most players can swallow. That’s that theme park-y feeling.

      I think if the right game was made with clever instancing, something to appeal to all the subcategories of MMO players, and a pricing structure that isn’t unfair in today’s landscape, it could work. Who wants to volunteer to make and risk that though when you can make something magnitudes cheaper and more likely to make money?

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  • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yea it would take a lot of money and experience to break into the space, mostly cause you would need to take players from existing games. People who like mmorpgs already play them.

    That’s probably why riot put their mmo on ice for a while until they figure it out. But if anyone I’m putting my money on them to nail it.

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    • alilbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are even huge fractures inside that community. You have the intense raiders who want an extremely refined and tuned endgame, the pvp people who just want this refined competitive experience and finely balanced classes, and then you have the more casual story and exploration players like me. Striking a balance between these three is nigh impossible and has killed otherwise fun MMOs with cool new ideas. RIP Wildstar, we hardly knew ye.

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• Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I dun wont et

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• JoeKrogan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No interest in this or that universe anymore

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• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  GRRM is on the design team. Keep holding your breath folks.

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  • Mango@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What a waste of his time! Get on the winds of winter you big ole procrastinator!

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  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That may be cool for lore aspects but I don't see how that could safe the very flawed genre aspects of it.

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  • alilbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’ll depend on how much influence he has. He consulted on Elden Ring and I think his touch can be felt in the fucked up family dynamics of the story there, but he was limited in involvement. I don’t think GRRM will be the limiting factor here anyway.

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• CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll believe it when I see it.

  I’m still waiting for the Stargate MMO to appear.

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  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I remember how impressed I was by the visuals of the Ha'tak explosion, particularly the smoke particles.

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  • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ah yes nexon. Haven’t played any of their games in years but last think I remember is all of them being similar with the same cash shop system slapped on.

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    • DarkThoughts@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They're indeed very much infamous within the genre. At least years back they were. But I doubt they had some sort of process of enlightenment.

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