I am against student loan repayments. A plumber should not be paying for your gender studies degree.
Man, you gotta just pity this guy. Is he desperate for attention? Screaming into a void? The world may never know.
Biden to defy Supreme Court in second attempt at sweeping student loan handout
Submitted 8 months ago by wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee to conservative@lemm.ee
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Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
So you think a plumber should pay for someone else’s degree? Luckily I’m not screaming in a void. SCOTUS agrees Biden can’t cancel loans. Big win for my team
gregorum@lemm.ee 8 months ago
That’s not how it works. If you had even an elementary understanding of how taxes work in this country, you understand that you, personally, are not paying for anyone’s anything. But you don’t care about the facts.
However, you will gladly lie about it to spread false information to others, because it serves your political purpose. And sad that your politics rely solely upon lies.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Are you aware that the largest recipients of taxpayer money in the country are the wealthy?
Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
NO and also the biggest taxpayers in the country are plumbers!! Meanwhile Elton Musk and corporations like ATT play $3 a year. But also we need to spend $900 billion a year on the military.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
See this shows why you argument is so weak. Elon made a dollar. So how much taxes should he pay n a dollar ? It’s the common income vs wealth that people just can’t seem to wrap their heads around.
gregorum@lemm.ee 8 months ago
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
he’s always like that
PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 8 months ago
A plumber should not be paying for your gender studies degree.
And what if I’m getting a degree in computer science, mathematics, statistics, physics, economics, or medicine? Would it be okay for me to leech off society for a bit before I get a job and contribute to it by working for, say, Google for a bit, before I start my own tech company? Would that be okay?
Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
NO the only legitimate jobs are plumbers and cops.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The jobs that actually provide value are the ones that should be subsidised by the state.
MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
How about you pay for it yourself instead of being a leech?
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
No
BunkerBuster@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You won’t make a lot of friends with this
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I have plenty of friends. I’m not accepting applications for new friends at this time.
gregorum@lemm.ee 8 months ago
People like you have no friends. That’s why you try so hard to gain validation through opposition. But that’s not real validation, either. It’s just validation that people hate you. For good reason.
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I’m not understanding the controversy here.
If the government uses some of the budget to pay back part of student loans, the creditors get their money so that’s good for them. The debtors having been relieved, will spend that money instead on products and services - some of that money will be collected as taxes, and some of it will circulate into the economy. A sizeable portion of that money will go to businesses that can invest it into more employees and providing more services and products available to consumers, expanding the economy and generating more tax revenues. In the case of federal loans, the government is really just wiping out a debt to itself, nobody is actually losing money on this. So if I haven’t misunderstood or missed something crucial, my question is: WHO IS THE VICTIM?
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
There’s lots of victims.
- Congress who had their budget ignored.
- The area that is spending this money.
- Taxpayers that elected representatives to decide how money gets spent.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
WHO IS THE VICTIM
The tax payer. That’s who
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Can you explain how? How is the plumber losing anything? It seems to me he is gaining.
Gigan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Desperately trying to improve his approval rating ahead of the election by indirectly buying votes. You agreed to the loans, you should pay them back.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 8 months ago
First half is correct, second half isn't. Student loans are a predatory system taking advantage of kids' hope for a better future.
Gigan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Maybe so, but forgiving them doesn’t fix the underlying problem.
MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I can’t wait for Joe and his ilk to be rotting in hell
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Joe as president is hell.
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Biden is doing what the government is supposed to do. Promoting the general welfare. Massive student debt is dragging down the economy. People with degrees pay for training plumbers so why shouldn’t it work the other way ?
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
How about you pay for your student loans and I pay for mine? I’ve have a spending problem in this country. We can’t spend our way out of debt.
gregorum@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Then why are conservatives so ardent about spending on tax cuts for the rich if they’re so concerned about debt?
And why does the concern about debt only come up when spending on people other than the rich, who don’t pay their fair share of taxes in the first place?
Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I borrowed $40k for my education. Over 20 years I repaid $75k. Had the repayment plan Biden tried to do in 2021 not been shot down by the Supreme Court, I would have had $20k knocked off my balance, which means I would have still repaid a lot more than I had borrowed.
Why should the government be making money by charging interest on student loans? Plumbers wouldn’t have paid for the repayment, instead it would have been my interest payments paying for it. And the plumber would still be getting an extra $15k out of me in excessive payments that I’ve had to make.
Djtecha@lemm.ee 8 months ago
How about you pay for your kid and stock getting that tax credit? How about we stop subsidizing your gas to get to the job? You have a really dumb argument against helping people.
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Society needs doctors, teachers, engineers, and other jobs requiring degrees. We all benefit from their education. Why shouldn’t you pay for something you benefit from?
And yes, we can spend our way out of debt by investing in things that return more money than they cost us, like hiring more IRS agents to enforce existing tax laws or getting people better educational so they pay more in taxes from their higher paying jobs.
p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Because the GOP loves watching people suffer while their precious corporations gain constant free handouts. It’s actually quite funny and highlights why they shouldn’t be in control of anything, in my opinion. They say “The plumber shouldn’t pay for your loan bailout” because it’s Biden, but hooooo boy whenever Trump performed any bailout for those corps and farms when he was president, even at the expense of taxpayers, these same people were all for supporting it, because apparantly its ok for taxpayers to pay for a companies blunt failure, but it wasn’t ok to pay for your student relief. Classic