On social media we have these huge conversations where nobody involved has any actual experience. They're just repeating what other people said. Isn't that literally insane?

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• key@lemmy.keychat.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The ability to learn from other people without needing the same first hand experience is a hallmark of intelligence. It’s one of the things about our species that allowed us to develop past just being yet another animal in the wild. Education is largely based on that principle; your history teacher didn’t experience the horrors of trench warfare firsthand.

  So I wouldn’t call social media insanity so much as potentially addictive, which can cause you to overindulge in those behaviours. Admittedly addiction can feel like insanity when you’re in the throes of it.

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  • Dr_Satan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It is not the obvious function of knowledge that’s at issue, it is its quality. When the observation and the knowledge get too far apart, the words cease to refer to the observation and begin to refer only to themselves.

    And then the quality becomes poopoo. A solipsistic black hole.

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• hightrix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  When this happens on a topic with which you have expert level knowledge, it is so blindingly obvious and eye opening just how wrong every other conversation may be. It strongly suggests having a highly critical eye on any topic.

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  • Dr_Satan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The popular criteria for sane conversation appear to be

    1. logically consistent more or less

    2. sounds like something that I already agree with

    There you go. Stick to those rules and you can have a conversation about goddamn vulcan brain surgery. And everybody involved will wisely nod their heads.

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• glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is the “stupid question” if it’s literally insane? If so then no, that’s not what insanity means. But I think this is a thinly-veiled vent more than a question…

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  • Dr_Satan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When reality goes north and opinion goes south, getting further apart every day, then yes, I call that insanity.

    And that’s more than just the present state of opinions. That’s arguably the core function of the present system. (not necessarily by design of course. That would probably be just paranoid).

    Imagine a game of telephone. Where, a hundred exchanges down the chain, the chain twists upon itself, looping, conversation feeding upon recycled conversation, recursively. That’s where we are.

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    • ElJefe@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lol no. That’s not at all where the current state of things is. Yes, you do have localized echo chambers where people repeat their insane little opinions about whatever bullshit alex Jones or musk or Jordan Peterson or whomever says. But that represents a minimal number compared to the amount of people out there who are vastly knowledgeable and studied and experienced in the things they do. Your hyperbolic hot take is not only wrong, but is also reductive and neglects to acknowledge that there are a lot of intelligent people out there doing good things for society.

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    • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If that’s insanity then humans have been insane for thousands of years. People talking out their asses isn’t new at all

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• EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  PSA: The antagonist of FarCry 3 is not a credible source for what does or doesn’t constitute “literally insane”

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  • Dr_Satan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When somebody’s ideas about reality, and reality itself, are really different, we say that person is fantasizing or hallucinating or suffering a fugue state. Insanity, in other words.

    What I describe could be a personal insanity. Or a social kind of insanity, where society is insane.

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• teft@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do you think people only talk about things online that they haven’t experienced irl?

  Personally I tend to only talk about things I’m sure about or have first hand experience in.

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• orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Doesn’t matter . I had an anti vaxx lady wave a meme in my face and tell me doctors can’t be trusted.

    They not only have experience they have proof. Confirmation bias is a bitch I guess.

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    • tygerprints@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Antivaxxers tend to be uneducated people with agendas. They are actually wanting to see more people get sick and die, because they think it "eliminates" undesirable (ie, educated liberal good people) from the world. When it fact, it only eliminates their own ignorant breed. That's why I don't argue with them, I let them go ahead and exhaust themselves on their cross of ignorance.

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  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Remember, reddit didn’t do it.

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• hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Source: trust me bro

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• sugarfree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s insane, but I love it.

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• tygerprints@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh Dr. Satan. I wouldn't call it insanity so much as willful ignorance. People only want to hear what they want to hear. So they tend to reject anything that's a new idea or that challenges their world view and it's easier just to repeat the things they've been brainwashed to believe.

  As an LGBTQ plus a bunch of other letters person, trust me when I say I've come against this wall many times. People who are relatively young with little world experience trying to tackle huge issues without much wisdom to back it up. The result IS a kind of mass insanity, where people are more willing to trust misinformation and silliness. That truly is a horrible consequence of not being open minded and willing to be educated.

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