Comment on Interesting analogy

stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• deaf_fish@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Well, the Native Americans have actual agreements that were made with the US government, that were then broken immediately by said government. They have the receipts. So this is a bit different.

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• dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  An appropriate response would be that Native Americans are still being oppressed, marginalized, having agreements violated, to this day, that they’re rightly due actual reparations and land back on that basis, but that the statute of limitations for these kind of claims, if you’re trying to devise some kind of universal ethical system to deal with them, may extend 100, 200, 300 years, for various types of claims, but not 2,000.

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  • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What reparations are owed to the Indigenous people of the Vietnamese highlands, perpetrated against them for centuries against the other Indigenous people of the Vietnam lowlands?

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    • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I suspect you have better answers to that question than I do. Though the more pertinent question would probably be the reparations they’re owned from the genocide perpetrated against them by the U.S.

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• Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The cruel reality is that humans kill and steal from each other in competition for resources and security. Doesn’t matter if it’s a bullet to the head or a dishonored agreemen. Land belongs to nobody, and whoever shows up and beats the fuck out of whoever’s there now “owns” it. It is very hard for people to look at several hundred K of years of human history and realize it’s always been this way and never will change.

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• frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Try it and let us know how it works for you. Be sure to say it to their face in real life. 150 years is like 4 generations, that was after a sequence of attempted genocides, and then there was another two generations of trying to whitify them (fun fact, football has lots of rules because Yale attendees were soft racist little bitches who need participation trophies even 100 years ago). So yeah, let’s see what happens.

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  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me.

    (Exodus 20:5, NKJV)

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    • frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re disgusting

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