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• Moc@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Commie implied that milk was farmed before markets existed and I was honestly baffled

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I didn’t have a good grasp of history. apparently we mined before developing agriculture, which is wild to me.

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    • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What would mining have to do with agriculture and therefore milk?

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        mining was the Genesis if trade, but it’s assumed it would have followed trade.

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• davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You don’t need to keep getting them pregnant, you just need to consistently keep milking them. Milk production continues for as long as it is not left untaken. Definitely not vegan at all.

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s absolutely incorrect. It’s a significant amount of time, around 10 months, but you have to repeatedly get a cow pregnant over their useful life in order to continue getting milk from them.

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    • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I stand corrected.

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      • Gloomy@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This is btw one main reason why milk is murder, because many of those calves are often killed for their meat. The other reason is that cows stop beeing productive and are killed way before their natural death, since the replacement calves are rdy to go (I think it was something like after 5 years with their natural life span beeing around 25, but I’m not sure if I remember correctly).

        A bit oversimplified, but just to add a bit more context why vegans don’t drink milk.

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• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  there’s zero situation where milk can be ethically vegan if that’s your ethical framework.

  risking incivility, duh.

  it’s an animal product

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• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Commie thinks that milk is just a byproduct of cows existing.

  I never said that

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  • spujb@lemmy.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    please maybe don’t bring it back here

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      no u

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      • spujb@lemmy.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        😾 meanie head

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• Filthmontane@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Commie sounds like a baby leftist that hasn’t read Das Kapital yet. He wouldn’t be trying to make this argument if he actually read Marx.

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