Yahtzee uses “valid poker hands” and dice for scoring too. They sell that in toy stores.
Comment on PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Loot boxes suck but the only thing separating this game from gambling is the use of real money. It’s literally a poker game.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yatzhee is dice. It uses combinations of numbers. They turn into points. Before you make any other ridiculous comparisons the idea is to perform to standard. Not to lower the standard. Gambling is a serious addiction and making games about it is a serious issue.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yatzhee is dice.
So is craps, one of the most popular casino games on the planet.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You can’t gamble with dice?
Soggy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I played Yahtzee once and now I hustle back alley Craps foe drug money.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If you want to be reductive everything is gambling. Even your birth.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So then explain why games with actual real money gambling aren’t rated 18+, is gambling “imagery” really that much worse than having actual gambling?
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ask PEGI why loot boxes aren’t rated 18+, I’m not defending them.
BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 3 months ago
These games not only have poker in the name, they are literally casino sims, and you play against other players:
store.steampowered.com/app/…/Prominence_Poker/
…playstation.com/…/UP2070-CUSA01104_00-UPUREPOKER…
Both pegi 12. Your argument is flawed.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
ech@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It’s literally not.
Teepo@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Balatro doesn’t have anything like gambling. There’s no betting. You don’t even have an opponent. The chips are only points, and the goal is to get as high a score as you can. The rules vary wildly from poker in ways that could never work with multiple players, let alone with real cards. It just looks like poker at the start and that description helps give you an initial idea of how to play.
static09@lemmy.world 3 months ago
In Balatro, the Ante is the boss’s health and chips are the amount of damage done to a boss. The poker hands are just attacks done to the boss’s health. They use poker terms because it’s inspired by card games, not because there’s gambling.
KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
The only gambling in this game is picking the goddamn wheel card even though I know it’s going to give me “nope!”
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I didn’t say there was and neither did PEGI. The issue is all the terminology and visuals are gambling related. This is like giving a cigarette smoker a nicotine vape and saying it’s not cigarettes. It’s technically true but you’d be insane to authorize it for kids.
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This analogy is garbage. The “nicotine vape for kids” isn’t Balatro, it’s loot boxes. Balatro would be like candy cigarettes.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Funny you should mention candy cigarettes.
Whether it’s candy cigarettes or a nicotine vape depends purely on the person playing the game. A gambling addict could easily see this as their nicotine vape, and it could easily prime kids for casinos.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The whole point of the post is real gambling is rated as totally safe for kids. As long as it doesn’t use card or poker chips as imagery. Why is getting kids to actually gamble ok? Why is imagery associated with gambling so much worse than actual gambling for kids?
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No the whole point of this post is performative outrage as marketing. They knew exactly what rating a faux casino game was going to get them.
BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
You meant “chocolate cigarette” for your analogy, I remember they used to exists when I was a kid, don’t know if they still do.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Funny you should mention candy cigarettes.
Whether it’s candy cigarettes or a nicotine vape depends purely on the person playing the game. A gambling addict could easily see this as their nicotine vape, and it could easily prime kids for casinos.