Can you rephrase their argument? To me it’s nonsense
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roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Commie thinks that milk is just a byproduct of cows existing. Friendlymessage correctly points out that you need to repeatedly get cows pregnant and feed them to produce milk and nobody would do it if there wasn’t a market demand.
Moc@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Commie implied that milk was farmed before markets existed and I was honestly baffled
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I didn’t have a good grasp of history. apparently we mined before developing agriculture, which is wild to me.
davidagain@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You don’t need to keep getting them pregnant, you just need to consistently keep milking them. Milk production continues for as long as it is not left untaken. Definitely not vegan at all.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 days ago
That’s absolutely incorrect. It’s a significant amount of time, around 10 months, but you have to repeatedly get a cow pregnant over their useful life in order to continue getting milk from them.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
there’s zero situation where milk can be ethically vegan if that’s your ethical framework.
risking incivility, duh.
it’s an animal product
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Commie thinks that milk is just a byproduct of cows existing.
I never said that
Filthmontane@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Commie sounds like a baby leftist that hasn’t read Das Kapital yet. He wouldn’t be trying to make this argument if he actually read Marx.
ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 4 days ago
friendlymessage is arguing that if there’s no demand for milk (ie people stop drinking milk), then the production of milk will fall or cease.
I have no idea what commie is talking about
Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I think commie begins saying that milk is naturally produced during the normal birthing of young. Then gets side tracked by the commercial aspect of milk as a product. Namely, no demand, no product. I could be wrong…
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
this wasn’t the start of the conversation
friendlymessage@feddit.org 4 days ago
In my defense: there already was a very deep comment chain before this and the whole thing was just infuriatingly stupid