Maybe where you live, but no. Today is actually the 12th of december. Yanks like to say thats how it is but I have never, or rather rarely, heard them call their independence day July 4th. It’s always 4th of July. So, no. Its not the speech order.
It matches the speech order in English. Today is December tenth, 2024.
MrNobody@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Sure. But we also say “September 11th” when referring to the world trade center attacks.
4th of July is the exception in American English.
thebigslime@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Independence Day is the sole exception in common speech. I suspect this is a older style carried forward into today. Any other date, like today’s, is Month Day (ordinal). Halloween is said October 31st, not the 31st of October. The latter is also much longer.
Cinco de Mayo is of course not in English.
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The 4th of July falls on July 4th. I can assure you as someone who has lived in the US for my entire life, we say it out loud, month, day, year and we write it to match that.
Rogue@feddit.uk 1 week ago
Is there a Lemmy community for /c/ShitAmericansSay
smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 week ago
Nope. It’s the 12th of December . Just like the 4th of July.
Dashi@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Disclaimer: am American.
I say the 4th of July because it’s a holiday. July 3rd, 5th, etc are all month/day. I don’t know why just what “sounds right” and it’s what I was taught. It threw me for a loop working with people over seas when I saw 13-10-24. We quickly noticed the confusion and swapped to spelling months out
smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 week ago
I work for an international company based in the US, but I am not in the US myself. I have been trying for years to get our American colleagues to use three letter abbreviations for the month to avoid ambiguity, for example in global emails. With a couple of small exceptions, I have been unsuccessful in convincing them of the need to be clear in their written communication to people in the rest of the world.
kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Not in nz
anothermember@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Where did you get this idea from? In British English 11th of December is more common. I’m open to the idea that American English does it differently and that’s fine but to assert that the entire English speaking world does it like that is incorrect and ignorant.
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It’s american/Canadian English. We say December 11th, 2024, we write it like we say it.
lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
In Canada we usually say Tuesday December 11th, like if someone is giving us an appointment date. It’s colloquial, I guess, a little more succinct.
anothermember@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
We might say December the 11th as well but that’s definitely the less common of the two.