Comment on Che Mangione

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  and Guevara was a Stalinist. Though nobody’s perfect.

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• Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Putting people in boxes like this is how the working class divided itself.

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  • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    i dunno, he doesn’t seem as someone who was “against the system”. We are not flowing liquids that intermingle with each other, sometimes we have to use labels. anyways, either A) this twitter was a front and he was bullshitting or B)He may of “snapped” and changed his worldview on things.

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    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Purity tests like this is also what’s landed us in this divided position. He did something good even if he’s flawed, and that’s enough.

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      • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m not saying that that we are divided, just that we don’t know the full picture of luigi yet. If some one stabbed you in the back, then helped you stab some one else in the back, would you trust that person not to stab you in the back again? its not division, its a simple level of trust that needs to be built

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• Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Mlk was an adulterer and ghandi had a penchant for young children.

  Stop picking apart revolutionary minds.

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  • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    zeroth of all, they were figureheads in large organizations. luigi has none of that

    besides, there’s no improvement without criticism

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  he also only started caring about state of healthcare industry when it touched him personally.

  So like about 2/3’s of humanity, huh?

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I actually think that you are not leftist at all it’s that’s your take on both that tweets and the things you complaint about those tweets.

  I don’t know if recently we switched sides and socialism became equivalent with primitivism. But industrialization and embrace of science a technology was a big part of socialism when it started in the xix century.

  I don’t buy the primitivism take, sorry. It’s sad that people don’t buy pregnant sonic commissions $80 a piece in etsy because some open source AI does a better job for free. But it has nothing to do with socialism or the struggle of the working class.

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  • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    (literally writing this from lab) i’m not calling him a techbro because i have some kind of disdain for tech workers, i’m calling him a techbro because he’s chasing unviable or harmful ideas or tech from old scifi that his cult (or at least was influenced by ideas typically associated with that cult) adopted as a part of doctrine. things like cryonics, some sketchy supplements that are supposed to give extreme life extension, or AI and quantum computing (because they think simulation = actual thing, and they hope to achieve immortality with AI). you might start to think that i’m batshit crazy just by explaining it, but i assure you it’s them, and these people will be part of american government really soon. start there rationalwiki.org/wiki/LessWrong

    in no place i’m saying “technology bad”, i’m saying there’s plenty of harmful tech being pushed for profit and Luigi went full in in that sector. other than healthcare, that is

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