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• deaf_fish@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Negotiate alone with what leverage? We are all replaceable. As soon as they figure out it’s just you, they will fire you and pick someone else from the hundreds of thousands who have an equivalent skill set.

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  • madthumbs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you can’t negotiate your pay in a non-union job, then you’re not worth more pay and you should stop deceiving yourself.

    You mention ‘skill set’. There are far more valuable qualities to employees like reliability, dedication, how well liked you are, etc etc. Somone not realizing this indicates a lack of value as an employee.

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    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Deceiving myself about what?

      Yeah, all those qualities are a basic requirement to get a job. I have never worked with someone who didn’t have those qualities. There not something you can leverage to get a raise.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Absolute braindead take. Spoken like a nepobaby or a child who has never worked.

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• Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Negotiation almost de facto requires group effort, or a union. The only time negotiation works outside of that is edge cases.

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  • madthumbs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unions only help themselves. If you failed at negotiating; you over value yourself.

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    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Unions only help themselves.

      That’s utter bullshit.

      afscme.org/…/the-union-difference-in-wages-18-hig…

      cnbc.com/…/labor-unions-winning-better-pay-hours.…

      nber.org/…/new-evidence-unions-raise-wages-less-s…

      bloomberg.com/…/us-union-members-see-record-pay-r…

      axios.com/…/union-workers-wealth-comparison-pay-d…

      epi.org/…/union-workers-had-more-job-security-dur…

      southfloridaclc.org/…/unions-and-job-security-a-l…

      www.dol.gov/sites/…/WORK-fs-DOL-Unions-v6.pdf

      www.bls.gov/…/employee-access-to-sick-leave.htm

      bls.gov/…/union-workers-more-likely-than-nonunion…

      They lead to higher wages, job security, better benefits, and better PTO/sick days. In every respect, in general, a union job is better for the worker than a non union job.

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      • madthumbs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They lead to higher wages

        They lead to companies being forced to keep horrible employees that cost them money and pay them more than they’d otherwise need to. You could have negotiated better pay for yourself, but you want to keep leech employees around. They also can cause the closure of businesses (the opposite of job security). Sick time shouldn’t be a thing. No one should be incentivized to call in sick, and that costs the company money which again comes out of what you could have negotiated for yourself.

        Posting a bunch of union propaganda doesn’t change the fact that they only serve themselves.

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    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It’s wild how you’re like

      Then negotiate. But don’t do anything to make the negotiation favorable to you and don’t do anything to prevent the other party from making the negotiation favorable to them.

      Wtf do you think negotiation is?

      This opinion is cousin to “then vote with your wallet, but if you boycott anything then you’re woke”
      And sibling to “the free market is best, except people shouldn’t be free to organize against corporations”

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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• Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  some people actually prefer to stay on government subsidies like SNAP, and HEAP.

  Said like a real chump.

  Earning more is always better.

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