Your comment is complete fantasy. Nothing would change under Harris.
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dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 weeks agoIf Kamala had been elected, the left would have been free to slam her on the Gaza issue, AND she would have been free to break from Biden and say “fuck you” to Netanyahu. She had to toe the line during the election and so did we. Once the election was won, we could have rallied. We’d have been united finally, and she wouldn’t have needed Biden anymore. Now instead of pressuring a sympathetic president to end a genocide, we have to arm ourselves to die fighting a fascist president. There is no more path to less genocide. That path closed. All three genocides are gonna happen.
Zelensky is now trying to arm his country with nukes because he knows he can’t rely on America. Drag is talking to politicians in drag’s country about refugee visas for America. We’re all getting ready for mitigation and survival. We could have all been focusing on the Gaza issue instead. We could have done something.
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 weeks ago
If you think we couldn’t have persuaded Kamala to drop Israel’s funding, if you think there’s absolutely nothing we could have done to help Gaza under any circumstances, then why make Gaza your single issue? You’re the one who says there’s nothing we could have done. Fine, then you should have continued to do nothing for Gaza, left the fighting for Gaza to us lot, and tasked yourself with preventing the other two genocides Trump was planning on.
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The dems getting their asses handed to them and rightfully so across the board should force them to do some deep soul searching, and rile up their out to brunch blue no matter who supporters into giving a shit since they clearly haven’t for the past four years.
Liberal tears are tasty coming from a leftist sick of liberal bullshit. Just this time! Most important election ever! Gotta save democracy! After my team gets in I’ll push them left! so fucking exhausting listening to liberals. LMFAO if you think the left believes that if Kamala won youd be pushing her left. Where were you the last four years?!
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The dems getting their asses handed to them and rightfully so across the board should force them to do some deep soul searching, and rile up their out to brunch blue no matter who supporters into giving a shit since they clearly haven’t for the past four years.
Lol, and you accuse others of fantastical thinking? When has that ever worked?
The last time this happened is when the democratic leadership pulled together to bump Bernie for Clinton. When Clinton lost to trump, did the Dems do some soul searching and go further left?
Liberal tears are tasty coming from a leftist sick of liberal bullshit.
Brb, gonna elect a fascist to get those liberal tears…
fucking exhausting listening to liberals.
You’re not a leftist, you’re just a contrarian fuckwit that doesn’t understand basic organization and mutual aid.
If you were anything but an armchair leftist, you would have a basic understanding about the importance of popular fronts in leftist history. Some of the most important organizing that allowed leftist governments to come to power in the past have been when leftist anarchist, and yes even the working and middle class, all came together to present a unified front against fascist.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 weeks ago
These are some good arguments, you should go to Washington and present them to the DNC. This isn’t Washington, this isn’t the DNC, this is Lemmy. We’re not the Democratic leadership, we’re just a bunch of anarchists. And we don’t buy your argument that you’re not responsible for the consequences of your own decisions because a democrat is to blame. You should have done the right thing even if the Dems did the wrong thing. Instead, they did the wrong thing, and you decided to do the wrong thing too. You think you get a free pass because there’s someone else to blame for your actions. You don’t.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
And will change drastically under Trump, just not in a good way…
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What’s gonna change? We’re gonna magically stop supporting fascist imperialism?
The US has been at war for all but like seven years of it’s existence. We live in a false “democracy” where people are given the illusion of choice when in reality we are like a capitalist version of the USSR. The corporations run the state.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
What’s gonna change? We’re gonna magically stop supporting fascist imperialism?
Lol, the American system is hot shit, but it’s not quite yet a fascist empire. That’s like a German socialist in the 30’s claiming that the Weimar Republic is fascist, so you might as well vote for Hitler.
The US has been at war for all but like seven years of it’s existence.
That’s not how fascism is defined… If it was, the fucking Soviets would be fascist.
We live in a false “democracy” where people are given the illusion of choice when in reality we are like a capitalist version of the USSR. The corporations run the state.
And your solution is to give away what little control we are allotted to a politician who wants to make it all worse?
How are you helping this scenario at all? What mutual aid are you giving, what support network are you organizing. Seems to me you’re just whining about it all while actively making it worse.
Maalus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So much cope in this comment.
lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Sounds like that since you didn’t get the "pponent you wanted you are able to lay down the resistance.
I wonder how far that fight would have gone if Holocaust Harris had won lol
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Holocaust Harris
Lol, the brainworms are very strong in this one.
This is why no one takes you seriously.
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It would of gone just as far as it had under biden. The liberals have been out to brunch for four years, and under Harris, they would of been out to brunch for another four years. Maybe under trump they might actually do something besides ineffectual marching around with signs and pussy hats.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You’re willing to burn lives to win an argument. This is psychopathy
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And the vote blue no matter who no matter how much genocide isn’t?
chaonaut@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Sorry, were you around for the past several elections? Perhaps the 2020 elections where, upon the progressives banding with Biden to get him elected with the expectation that we would be able to “push him to the left”, the Democratic party decided that the reason they didn’t win more seats was because Progressives had damaged their chances of winning, and they must be marginalized. Or perhaps the 2016 elections where, the target of a long running hate campaign was preferred by the party over the popular progressive candidate who was then blamed for his supporters not being won over. Or the 2012 elections where the incumbent Democrat failed to deliver on progressive policies and was a high water mark for drone strikes, but progressives helped bring the win over the candidate Republicans weren’t excited for.
I voted for Harris in hopes that she’d beat out Trump despite how much she and Biden before her discarded progressive policy. I was under no expectation of Progressives being able to do a damn thing to reach her.
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Don’t forget the DNC tried and failed to ratfuck the 2008 primary in favor of Hillary as well!
simple@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
LOL no. The democrats are entirely supportive of israel despite the occasional virtue signaling. I don’t understand why people would put Kamala on a pedistal and say maybe she’s different.
This is not how real life works.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The difference is that there are democratic representatives that are supportive of the Palestinian people. Unless you are claiming the Rashida Talib is just virtue signaling her Palestinian ethnicity.
Says the person who voted third party in a two party system…
No shit, but she is sympathetic to her hold on power. If there is enough noise to challenge her hold, she very well could have had a “change of heart”.
It’s called harm reduction, no is expecting any US political party to solve the countrys problem. Some of us just don’t want to live through a fascist regime.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 weeks ago
Yeah, drag knows that’s not how real life works. In real life, y’all decided fuck left unity, let’s have a fascist president and make it every queer for themselves. So now we’re making plans to help our loved ones free the country. You think we have time to go to the Gaza rallies when we’re worrying about concentration camps? We could have all been at the pro-Gaza rallies. We could have marched, blocked the streets, lit up the media. We don’t have time for that now, we’re putting our own oxygen masks on first. We could have done something. This was preventable.
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EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Liberals aren’t left. Fuck off your your “left unity” bullshit, if you really wanted that you would’ve pressured Biden and Harris to move farther left and attract more left voters. I bet you spent your time calling people against genocide in Gaza Russian bots instead
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They’ve been out to brunch for four years and any criticism of the democrat party is Russian bots.