Comment on Not voting for genocide, explained
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 hours agoIf Kamala had been elected, the left would have been free to slam her on the Gaza issue, AND she would have been free to break from Biden and say “fuck you” to Netanyahu. She had to toe the line during the election and so did we. Once the election was won, we could have rallied. We’d have been united finally, and she wouldn’t have needed Biden anymore. Now instead of pressuring a sympathetic president to end a genocide, we have to arm ourselves to die fighting a fascist president. There is no more path to less genocide. That path closed. All three genocides are gonna happen.
Zelensky is now trying to arm his country with nukes because he knows he can’t rely on America. Drag is talking to politicians in drag’s country about refugee visas for America. We’re all getting ready for mitigation and survival. We could have all been focusing on the Gaza issue instead. We could have done something.
LOL no. The democrats are entirely supportive of israel despite the occasional virtue signaling. I don’t understand why people would put Kamala on a pedistal and say maybe she’s different.
Once the election was won, we could have rallied. We’d have been united finally, and she wouldn’t have needed Biden anymore.
This is not how real life works.
The democrats are entirely supportive of israel despite the occasional virtue signaling. I don’t understand why people would put Kamala on a pedistal and say maybe she’s different.
The difference is that there are democratic representatives that are supportive of the Palestinian people. Unless you are claiming the Rashida Talib is just virtue signaling her Palestinian ethnicity.
This is not how real life works.
Says the person who voted third party in a two party system…
She’s not sympathetic to anyone. You don’t become president out of love and good vibes.
No shit, but she is sympathetic to her hold on power. If there is enough noise to challenge her hold, she very well could have had a “change of heart”.
people post fanfiction on how the US will suddenly be a utopia and we just need to give the dems one last chance
It’s called harm reduction, no is expecting any US political party to solve the countrys problem. Some of us just don’t want to live through a fascist regime.
Once the election was won, we could have rallied. We’d have been united finally, and she wouldn’t have needed Biden anymore.
This is not how real life works.
Yeah, drag knows that’s not how real life works. In real life, y’all decided fuck left unity, let’s have a fascist president and make it every queer for themselves. So now we’re making plans to help our loved ones free the country. You think we have time to go to the Gaza rallies when we’re worrying about concentration camps? We could have all been at the pro-Gaza rallies. We could have marched, blocked the streets, lit up the media. We don’t have time for that now, we’re putting our own oxygen masks on first. We could have done something. This was preventable.
Sounds like that since you didn’t get the "pponent you wanted you are able to lay down the resistance.
I wonder how far that fight would have gone if Holocaust Harris had won lol
Holocaust Harris
Lol, the brainworms are very strong in this one.
This is why no one takes you seriously.
It would of gone just as far as it had under biden. The liberals have been out to brunch for four years, and under Harris, they would of been out to brunch for another four years. Maybe under trump they might actually do something besides ineffectual marching around with signs and pussy hats.
You’re willing to burn lives to win an argument. This is psychopathy
And the vote blue no matter who no matter how much genocide isn’t?
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Your comment is complete fantasy. Nothing would change under Harris.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 hours ago
And will change drastically under Trump, just not in a good way…
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
What’s gonna change? We’re gonna magically stop supporting fascist imperialism?
The US has been at war for all but like seven years of it’s existence. We live in a false “democracy” where people are given the illusion of choice when in reality we are like a capitalist version of the USSR. The corporations run the state.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 hours ago
If you think we couldn’t have persuaded Kamala to drop Israel’s funding, if you think there’s absolutely nothing we could have done to help Gaza under any circumstances, then why make Gaza your single issue? You’re the one who says there’s nothing we could have done. Fine, then you should have continued to do nothing for Gaza, left the fighting for Gaza to us lot, and tasked yourself with preventing the other two genocides Trump was planning on.
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The dems getting their asses handed to them and rightfully so across the board should force them to do some deep soul searching, and rile up their out to brunch blue no matter who supporters into giving a shit since they clearly haven’t for the past four years.
Liberal tears are tasty coming from a leftist sick of liberal bullshit. Just this time! Most important election ever! Gotta save democracy! After my team gets in I’ll push them left! so fucking exhausting listening to liberals. LMFAO if you think the left believes that if Kamala won youd be pushing her left. Where were you the last four years?!
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 hours ago
Lol, and you accuse others of fantastical thinking? When has that ever worked?
The last time this happened is when the democratic leadership pulled together to bump Bernie for Clinton. When Clinton lost to trump, did the Dems do some soul searching and go further left?
Brb, gonna elect a fascist to get those liberal tears…
You’re not a leftist, you’re just a contrarian fuckwit that doesn’t understand basic organization and mutual aid.
If you were anything but an armchair leftist, you would have a basic understanding about the importance of popular fronts in leftist history. Some of the most important organizing that allowed leftist governments to come to power in the past have been when leftist anarchist, and yes even the working and middle class, all came together to present a unified front against fascist.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 hours ago
These are some good arguments, you should go to Washington and present them to the DNC. This isn’t Washington, this isn’t the DNC, this is Lemmy. We’re not the Democratic leadership, we’re just a bunch of anarchists. And we don’t buy your argument that you’re not responsible for the consequences of your own decisions because a democrat is to blame. You should have done the right thing even if the Dems did the wrong thing. Instead, they did the wrong thing, and you decided to do the wrong thing too. You think you get a free pass because there’s someone else to blame for your actions. You don’t.