Which funds did you invest into? I’ve studied like 25 hours of investing. Haven’t found a good fund yet except FSKAX and VTI
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Placid@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m in a Vanguard target fund and I’m up 7.8% over the same period. There was a lot of red until December 2023, when it broke even. All gains are pretty much from this year looking at my returns chart.
Buttflapper@lemmy.world 1 month ago
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You found the good ones. No need to go looking further.
CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I’m in BTC S&P 500 Index, BTC Russell 2500, BTC ACWI EX US IMI, and BTC US Debt and am at 11.93%, 3.6%, 3.87%, and -1.34% over the last 3 years. Over the last year though, it’s 36.36%, 26.36%, 25.22%, and 11.6%. My funds are Large Cap Blend, Small Cap Blend, Foreign Blend, and US Bonds at roughly 67/7/20/6 percent division of my portfolio.
I think you just got into the market at the height of the markets during COVID and are still digging your way back out. You could try diversifying a little bit in a similar fashion to spread the gains and losses out a bit over both large and small US companies and foreign markets.
GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I let my bank’s financial advisor handle that. They have apps that calculate everything.
tychosmoose@lemm.ee 1 month ago
That’s all fine, but just be sure you know how much you’re paying them for that service. Before we switched to self-managed a number of years ago our guys were taking 1.4% off the top of the whole account just to pick a bunch of index ETFs. Market goes up 5% and I only see 3.6% of it. Not good. Plus the ETFs they picked had higher expenses than just going with a whole market choice.
They offered to get us on a plan at 1%. Ha, no thanks.
GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah that’s bad. We’re with JP Morgan through our local Chase branch and their fee when all is said and done is averaged down to less than 1% of the total account balance.
XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
They do. And you can generally trust banks to try and sell you what’s most profitable to them.
GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They are fiduciaries.
ultranaut@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If you have an account with Fidelity, FZROX should be a better choice than VTI. Unless you enjoy investing or want to really get into it, either do a target date fund for the easiest and lowest risk, or a total market fund like VTI, or an S&P500 fund like VOO. You really don’t need to overcomplicate beyond that, except to potentially start buying bonds when you are nearing retirement if you didn’t choose a target date fund.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I recommend FSKAX over FZROX. There are few minor differences. Yes FZROX has a lower expense ratio, but it BARELY lower when compared to FSKAX. My understanding is the biggest downside to FZROX is that you can’t hold that in any other brokerage. So if one day you decide you don’t like Fidelity you have to sell all your FZROX and then buy something else offered at the other brokerage. In a retirement fund this isn’t so much a big deal, but could mean you miss out on gains between the sale and the purchase of whatever else you replace it with.
If you’re investing in a non-retirement account this is a BIG deal, as any gains would be taxed at the time of sale. This can mean you pay 15%-20% on the gains just to switch brokerages. FSKAX doesn’t have that limitation, and you’d be able to simply do an “in kind” transfer of the securities to your new brokerage without any tax events/consequences. To me, that portability is worth the tiny different in expense ratio.
ultranaut@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That is the downside, FZROX is only available to Fidelity customers. There’s also a potential risk it won’t track total market performance as well as predicted because one of the ways they keep the expense ratio at zero is by only purchasing what is supposed to be an equivalent subset of the total market to keep their transaction costs down. I don’t remember the specifics but I think they leave out lots of tiny companies and its not a significant risk because they couldn’t actually move the needle one way or the other.
Placid@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Mainly VFFVX, which is up 4.46% over a 3 year period, but I have about 20% in various other funds.
Mozingo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve put my ira into FNILX. Zero fees and consistently beats 10%
Poik@pawb.social 1 month ago
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
That’s messed up.
Poik@pawb.social 1 month ago
At least it has some years for the inevitable bounce left. It’s getting there. Just kind of something someone trying to retire would have a panic over.
Poik@pawb.social 1 month ago
Okay… I even came with receipts on this one. Am I just annoying? What’s with the downvote, even on ones where people are suggesting target date funds? The fund will bounce, it’s just a huge dip for one that was supposed to be, according to professionals, safe for retirement use. So sure, I can see the downvote as disagreeing with sensationalism, but I was contesting the suggestion that no funds dropped in that time. If it’s because I got spammy, sure… I assume most people don’t reread the other comments after the first time they go through, but I can stop.
For reference, target date funds are still usually good, but total stock index is always better in a ten year period, so whether they are actually worth it is questionable.
socsa@piefed.social 1 month ago
Yeah there is something else going here. No domestic markets are actually down in this interval. OP must have bought some individual stocks.
protist@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Or be invested in managed funds with high fees that are performing poorly vs index funds. My 403b is definitely up over this same period, but I’m only in index funds
IHawkMike@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah, this is FSKAX over 3 years. I have a lot of my portfolio in it and it does well. It’s up 24% over that period.
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