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• redhorsejacket@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You are literally getting offended on someone’s behalf at this very moment.

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  • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • StopJoiningWars@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You do understand that the person being defended isn’t in the picture, doesn’t know or care about it, and therefore that this is just selfish white-knighting, right?

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  • el_abuelo@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Which is even more ironic when you look at their name and realise they just joined a war of words.

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  • StopJoiningWars@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Literally” not, I’m arguing for people to stop giving a shit about gender, especially about people who aren’t and won’t be a part of the discussion. It’s asinine and vapid self-serving slop to “defend” someone who for all you know is a huge bigot? Like come on, you don’t even know the person, why white-knight…

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What the hell happened here?

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  • StopJoiningWars@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not on someone’s behalf, but at someone who is defending a person they don’t even know needs defending. Like, what the fuck do you think you gain by “correcting” pronouns for a John Smith?

    It’s all about the personal gain, none of it is altruistic. It’s egocentric mania.

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• ilost7489@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I guess you could argue whether it was important to bring it up here, but you didn’t say that in your original comment. Your original comment was extending the idea that gender doesn’t matter to assert that proper pronouns aren’t needed in discussions. These are two separate (although sort of joined) ideas

  “Gender doesn’t matter” means that people should be able to do whatever regardless of their gender. They shouldn’t face discrimination if they’re male, female, trans, etc. It does not mean gender is not important in conversation as it certainly is to show that you respect someone. People won’t get mad if you use “they” to refer to them (or, if they do, they’re just an ass) but many people do get mad if you assume “he” or “she” because they’ll take it as a sign that you disrespect them or think they’re lesser because of their gender.

  Also, the tone of your first comments makes you sound like, for lack of a better word, an asshole. Don’t be surprised when people down vote when you go after someone like that

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  • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can’t reason with them. They seem incapable of basic critical thinking and reasoning.

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    • ilost7489@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah…I think people also subconsciously craft a persona of the other based on only one data point, and once they have their subconscious creation of the person from the “other” team, they ignore everything else that was written.

        I’ve also been trying to reason with them and they also won’t read what I wrote. Or, like you said, it’s possible I wasn’t clear enough, which is certainly possible.

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    • StopJoiningWars@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your inability to read doesn’t equate to my ability to argue. You’re just an idiot, sorry.

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      • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        😂

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  • StopJoiningWars@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Your first definition of gender not mattering is exactly right, and if the person doesn’t show up to correct the use of pronouns then who cares.

    There is no “honour” to defend for a random unknown individual. It’s just for self validation or so that people who do such things feel like they belong to the “tribe” or whatever. Tribalism is the stupidest reason to use pronouns.

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