I use Bazzite for my htpc and PopOS for my main PC, both play every game I can throw at it. Maybe it’s time to try it out. I started with a windows dual boot and found myself using it less and less, until just a couple months ago I deleted windows completely
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Butterbee@beehaw.org 2 months ago
What the heck am I going to do when win10 stops getting security patches? I really wish Valve would open up SteamOS to desktops in a public and supported way. That kind of pressure from valve has forced MS to play nice to users in the past. Anyone remember MS demanding that all software for Win8 be sold through the MS store only? And Valve said, fine we’ll make our own OS, with blackjack! And Hookers! And steam machines became a thing. Noone bought them. But it didn’t matter. It was enough pressure for MS to open up to having 3rd party storefronts again. I feel like we need this again. Also, if linux played nice with anti cheat, and discord I would probably be fine ditching windows but as it stands I’d miss out on playing games with my friends.
Anyway. Privacy Nightmare AI tool bad.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 months ago
Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Discord works great on Linux nowadays. Depending on the game, anti-cheat might also be fine. I play Helldivers 2 without any issues. It’s fine if you don’t have the oomph, but Pop_OS and Bazzite are both super solid ditros with a gaming focus. I have been using Pop as my only OS on my desktop for months now and really only needed the command line for VPN access and Switch modding
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Discord works great on Linux nowadays.
And has done so for quite some time.
equivocal@lemm.ee 2 months ago
If I were to speculate, they are waiting for the NVK (Open source NVIDIA driver) to be more mature. So, they wouldn’t have to release two versions and wouldn’t depend on NVIDIA to update their driver to work with software the Steam Deck uses. I.E. Steam Deck uses gamescope for everything outside of Desktop mode. NVIDIA’s driver didn’t work with it until 2 months after the Steam Deck release. Even though it had existed for years prior.
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
You can keep using win10 without security updates, just be smart about it. Have a good firewall, and just use it for gaming and bills or whatever and you’ll be fine
sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Linux mint looks like windows and is really easy to use
DdCno1@beehaw.org 2 months ago
… until you inevitably need to use the shell. Linux, no matter the flavor, has been very easy to use in the 22 years that I’ve tried to use it - until you need to dig ever so slightly deeper for something and then it very much isn’t. I started out with a Knoppix live-CD back in 2002. Remember that distro?
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I started with a Knoppix-based distro, called Kurumin. KDE 3 was the rage back then!
On your main point: the shell might be hard in the beginning, but for most things that you need to use the shell with, people on the internet already had the same issue and shared how to do it. Unless you’re actively trying to make something different, like I did with my audio switching script.
And even the sort of situation that you need to use the shell for decreased by a lot from back then to now.
sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 2 months ago
I haven’t needed to use CLI for much at all.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I started out with a Knoppix live-CD back in 2002. Remember that distro?
Thats what got me to start dual-booting and eventually nuke my Win XP install entirely.
It’s been all penguins ever since.
Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 2 months ago
What kind of task made you use the shell in Linux Mint (and i only know Mint after 2021) ? Was is a common task a regular person would need to do, or was it a geek or pro task that regular people would not even know it exists ? I installed Nvidia drivers with a click-install GUI easier than the windows equivalent, the appstore that is only rivaled by Apple had every debian and flatpak program i searched, and all the configurations i could ever tweak are in the configurations manager (unlike the current Windows mess of control panel and worse control panel).
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Power to them, until the software I use has 100% Linux compatibility then my hand is forced
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Besides what other users said: if you feel comfortable with SteamOS you might want to give EndeavourOS and Manjaro a check - all three distros are based on Arch Linux, and while Arch is geared towards experienced users the later two try to “sell” it towards a wider audience.
IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Oh my god if you are a new user please do not go straight to Arch or Manjaro. By far the two distros most likely to breaky irreparably.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I’m not suggesting Arch, but Arch-based distros. Manjaro doesn’t break anywhere as often as Arch does.
…or alternatively go with Mint and re-learn how to handle the packages. pacman vs. APT is not a big deal anyway.
nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I just saw this in a post today about manjaro, it seems like endeavor is the better choice if you are concerned about stability in the long term: manjarno.pages.dev
Gamers_mate@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Would games with anticheat work in a windows 10 vm? I am not interested in games that go out of their way to not work in wine but if it works in a vm of windows 10 you might be able to use that for gaming and whatever host os for your web browser emails etc.
bokster@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
No. They don’t and they wouldn’t.
Gamers_mate@beehaw.org 2 months ago
damn that sucks anticheat has gotten out of hand.
GabeMoralesVR@mastodon.gamedev.place 2 months ago
@Butterbee @tardigrada steamos is just manjaro with steam installed.
sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Fortunately valve did not use the System Manjaro provides. This would have been a very stupid business decision.
StreamOS is plain Arch
beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I was a windows only person forever Ubuntu Linux is way easier than I thought. Most things have a decent Linux version now & idk… if it doesn’t it’s not worth it.
Months and months and I haven’t looked back 🤷♂️ So. Maybe you could do that too?
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 months ago
SteamOS is focused on gaming, so its not a full replacement for Win10. There are ton of Linux operating systems for general use (even those that SteamOS is based on), without gaming focus and being a “normal” operating system like Windows. And if you want a gaming oriented OS, then there are plenty alternatives already: HoloISO, aiming for a SteamOS like system, and bunch of other: github.com/ChimeraOS/chimeraos/…/OS-Comparison . So there is no need to wait for SteamOS to open up as a general installation media on desktop.
Butterbee@beehaw.org 2 months ago
I honestly don’t want to leave windows. I did use linux for years and I don’t want to tinker with my OS or my applications anymore. And you’re right SteamOS isn’t a general purpose OS. My comment was more in the hopes that if it were pushed out like that, that MS would respond with more consumer friendly approaches to the desktop so I wouldn’t HAVE to switch again and deal with the jank. And there will be jank. I know a lot of games work now with proton but how about the Affinity Suite? I found a github that describes how to set up the process in like 18 easy steps so you can begin to install a custom wine for it and just like no I don’t want to do that. I want to just keep using my pc that works with the OS I actually paid money for and not get harvested. I am so tired.
UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 2 months ago
This is why I never really understand when people go “Just use Linux!!”. It isn’t a feasible option for everyone. For me, I work full time and I don’t have the energy to constantly fix things if they break. When I switched to Linux, I took great pains to ensure that my computer use case is one that could work in Linux, built a computer with parts known to be fine in Linux(including an AMD graphics card) and run Debian Stable on because I wanted something that wouldn’t be constantly updating. I’m in a comfy situation now, but I did a lot of planning beforehand that you can’t really expect people to do. Like, it’s great if we get more people using Linux, but that’s not a trivial ask.
Butterbee@beehaw.org 2 months ago
And that’s ok! Like it’s totally ok to be the os that it is. And it’s ok that it’s not for anyone. It’s certainly not for my desktop atm. But then it’s super amazing at appliance stuff. I’ve got home assistant on a minipc and truenas on a server. It’s ROCK SOLID when it’s deployed where it will shine.
Gamers_mate@beehaw.org 2 months ago
The OS that comes preinstalled will always have the largest market share unfortunately. The average person is not going to install a linux iso to a usb and disable bitlocker and whatever else windows adds to make it harder to change the OS. That is before even setting it up and making sure everything works. It helps if you are friends with someone that is into installing operating systems that can help you but not everyone has that friend. The best linux can do is try and keep microsoft in line. Valve has been doing a lot of the heavy lifting in that regard. It is also why user friendly distros are so important. Somebody who thinks emails and the internet is the same thing is not going to go for Arch.
Aelis@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Learning any OS isn’t a trivial task, but that’s something people seems to forget a lot.
But I get why people would say “just use Linux”, because if by chance you have the means to switch then why would you still stat locked to a tool made by a company that doesn’t care about you or your needs ? It would be counterproductive. (Also getting more Linux users would be beneficial for the Linux community, it could even be beneficial to everyone if that number is big enough to make Linux a serious competitor)
FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Also, I too love Linux, but when I ran a dual-boot for six weeks last summer I had to troubleshoot it almost every single day. Because of that I ended up just going back to Windows and making sure I keep it clean with O&O ShutUp. Some systems just aren’t compatible with Linux and mine is one of them.
Even when it was working, only approximately half of my games ran on it, so I needed Windows anyway. (Though that may be on me for choosing Mint instead of a more gaming-centric distro.)
I’m going to go back to Linux when get a new system and can have a gaming-dedicated PC, but for now, I’m stuck with Windows.
iLove@programming.dev 2 months ago
I’m a software developer and thus tried quite a few distros. Over the years I always switched back to Ubuntu, because it was the least broken. All others just suddenly gave up and had some weird bugs I wasn’t able to easily debug. Issues are not worth my free time. And that is the only reason I use Ubuntu alongside Windows. But when support for W10 seized, Windows will be history for me.
Gamers_mate@beehaw.org 2 months ago
I do think linux needs some tools that automate that sort of thing so the 18 steps becomes like 3. It doesn’t even need to be by the distro itself but scripts made for it. I managed to make a script that does the same thing as robocopy does on windows to replace a certain rundata file for gamemaker 8.1 since it had that glitch that caused the the rundata to become invalid. I did share that script on my magazine in kbin.run and kbin.social unfortunately both are defunct but I could always share it somewhere else or make a community where people ask for help with installing stuff and people make a script for it like /c/makemeascript or something. I will have a look at the affinity suite and see what steps it takes to see if It is something I am skilled enough to automate.
Aelis@beehaw.org 2 months ago
I get you, but relying on Microsoft not doing any anticonsumer decisions is like hoping Adobe will suddenly respect their users… It won’t happen and even if it did it’ll be short lived, it just won’t get you anywhere.