Comment on Compulsory Meat In Schools Should Be Scrapped, Says Dale Vince
Naich@lemmings.world 3 days agoSo you are against any lobbying? Green campaigners are lobbying for personal gain because they want a habitable planet. Even if you have a vested interest, surely you are allowed to have an opinion? If you have an opinion surely you are allowed to express it? If you are allowed to express it, surely people are allowed to listen to it? Should politicians be insulated from all industry voices, even if they have a valid point?
Just seems weird that no one really cared about it until this guy popped up on the radar.
Lobbying for the world to remain habitable is very different to lobbying so your catering company can make some money.
And of course he can express his view. As am I allowed to express my distaste in people lobbying for their own private companies’ benefit.
And I absolutely cared about lobbying before I saw this news.
He’s not campaigning to have his company’s food served at schools, just for the rule compelling schools to serve meat to be changed. His argument is that it is better for children’s health and for the environment that less meat is eaten - and he’s right. It doesn’t automatically follow that his company will gain from any change, as there are many other options available to schools and it’s perfectly possible for existing meat providers to start providing meatless meals.
Rule of meat being served to be changed for his company to then cater more food that doesn’t have meat in it. I don’t know how you don’t see the obvious conflict of interest of a dude with a vegan catering company who supplies schools pushing for more vegan meals in schools.
Any company can provide meat-free food. There is no reason this change in law should disadvantage his competitors.
You’re ignoring the fact that veganism is much better for the environment than the standard diet.
I’m not. I know it is. But there are many ways to campaign for a better environment, and he has specifically chosen to go for the one that will help his catering company.
I don’t think that was a coincidence.
Going vegan is the most impactful way to reduce your effect on the climate.
it would be if it caused the industry to pollute less or even just stop growing. it doesn’t.
He isn’t asking for them all to use his company’s food - just more plant based and no to compulsory meat. Nothing wrong with that at all.
drolex@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
That’s… like the opposite of personal gain
Naich@lemmings.world 3 days ago
How do green campaigners not gain from it?
Maalus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Personal gain is when you yourself profit from something way more than other people do. In this case - getting boatloads of money for something that ultimately doesn"t matter in the grand scheme of things.
Naich@lemmings.world 3 days ago
Personal gain in the case of green lobbying is a subset of universal gain. Exactly the same as Vince’s case. It doesn’t follow the he will profit more than anyone else, as anyone else can supply meat-free food too.
drolex@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
The idea is that in this case everybody profits. Universal again ≠ personal gain, even if the campaigners are included.
In the case of Vince, everybody profits because of the sustainability, BUT he has another very clear personal economic gain and that makes his intentions questionable. It would be more easily accepted if there wasn’t this clear conflict of interests.
Naich@lemmings.world 3 days ago
Any company can provide meat-free food. There is no reason for schools to change their existing suppliers.
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Any claim to discredit someone pushing for healthier and more sustainable meals for the children.
The meat and diary industries must be protected at all costs. They’re never self serving it must be the vegans /s