Comment on Compulsory Meat In Schools Should Be Scrapped, Says Dale Vince

• MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It could also be seen as less personal gain and more that he put his money where is mouth is and made a company to actually do what he’s been proposing schools need to do. Now they have the avenue to do so.

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah maybe. I’m certainly conflicted on this, because I don’t think he’s wrong, but him financially benefitting from this in a big way does leave a slight sour taste in my mouth.

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    • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      He’s not campaigning to have his company’s food served at schools, just for the rule compelling schools to serve meat to be changed. His argument is that it is better for children’s health and for the environment that less meat is eaten - and he’s right. It doesn’t automatically follow that his company will gain from any change, as there are many other options available to schools and it’s perfectly possible for existing meat providers to start providing meatless meals.

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    • Baggins@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      A bit like some of his food - it’s not that great. but he has a point as it should not be compulsory for meat to be served. I the staff and pupils were 100% vegetarian, then you wouldn’t expect meat to be back on the menu boys!

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• Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So you are against any lobbying? Green campaigners are lobbying for personal gain because they want a habitable planet. Even if you have a vested interest, surely you are allowed to have an opinion? If you have an opinion surely you are allowed to express it? If you are allowed to express it, surely people are allowed to listen to it? Should politicians be insulated from all industry voices, even if they have a valid point?

  Just seems weird that no one really cared about it until this guy popped up on the radar.

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  • drolex@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    green campaigners qre lobbying for personal gain because they want a habitable planet

    That’s… like the opposite of personal gain

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    • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      How do green campaigners not gain from it?

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      • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Personal gain is when you yourself profit from something way more than other people do. In this case - getting boatloads of money for something that ultimately doesn"t matter in the grand scheme of things.

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      • drolex@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The idea is that in this case everybody profits. Universal again ≠ personal gain, even if the campaigners are included.

        In the case of Vince, everybody profits because of the sustainability, BUT he has another very clear personal economic gain and that makes his intentions questionable. It would be more easily accepted if there wasn’t this clear conflict of interests.

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Lobbying for the world to remain habitable is very different to lobbying so your catering company can make some money.

    And of course he can express his view. As am I allowed to express my distaste in people lobbying for their own private companies’ benefit.

    And I absolutely cared about lobbying before I saw this news.

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    • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      He’s not campaigning to have his company’s food served at schools, just for the rule compelling schools to serve meat to be changed. His argument is that it is better for children’s health and for the environment that less meat is eaten - and he’s right. It doesn’t automatically follow that his company will gain from any change, as there are many other options available to schools and it’s perfectly possible for existing meat providers to start providing meatless meals.

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      • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Rule of meat being served to be changed for his company to then cater more food that doesn’t have meat in it. I don’t know how you don’t see the obvious conflict of interest of a dude with a vegan catering company who supplies schools pushing for more vegan meals in schools.

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    • Sunshine@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re ignoring the fact that veganism is much better for the environment than the standard diet.

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      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m not. I know it is. But there are many ways to campaign for a better environment, and he has specifically chosen to go for the one that will help his catering company.

        I don’t think that was a coincidence.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        it would be if it caused the industry to pollute less or even just stop growing. it doesn’t.

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    • Baggins@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      He isn’t asking for them all to use his company’s food - just more plant based and no to compulsory meat. Nothing wrong with that at all.

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