Comment on Has Google Search gotten so much worse in the last couple of weeks?

• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Is that the one that costs money? You can’t have a true incognito search if that’s the case.

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  • ironsoap@lemmy.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    True, but worth reading their about page and privacy page. Not saying it’ll stay this way, but the way they are running is something that makes more sense then being sold as a product to Google. And you aren’t getting much of an incognito these days with all the fingerprinting they are doing.

    I will admit kagi search isn’t the highest performer, but it’s viable. DDG, Start page, etc. Might give you more privacy, or not (hard to tell with DDG these days), but it might be worth trying a different model for a while.

    I miss the days when the internet was truly free, but in lieu of that we have to have something better. Kagi is a start.

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    • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Might want to look again…

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Then != Than

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  • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Incognito is on your client side browser on that the browser doesn’t retain any trace of the current session once you close the tab. The search engine still knows what you whacked off to.

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can’t have? Or you can’t be sure?
    Because you certainly can have. Just because you pay, doesn’t mean they will log your searches. In fact Kagi claim they don’t. And since their only income comes from paying users. If anyone ever found out they’re lying about that, they’d quickly loose a big chink of subscribers and income. As well as get sued for fraud. So it’s rather unlikely they do.

    Unlike every other search provider, Kagi is the only one with a business model that ensures it’s users are the customer, not the product. When actually using it every day, that’s quite obvious in the results. Even when you search for a company directly, it’s Wikipedia entry is usually the first result. The the company site is the second.

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    • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t be so sure of Kagi doing the right thing…

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not being sure was my point. We can’t be sure. But all their incentives are aligned in the right way. That’s the best we can hope for.

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  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    True Incognito mode is a myth, it only stops keeping a history in the tab of that browser. Everytime you use a browser to go to any site ever, the browser logs you went there. So does your ISP and the site your connecting to.

    The closest you can come to browsing the web anonymously would be with a mix of dedicated privacy OS like Tails and either a VPN or Tor as a middile man, but that assumes those proxys are not corrupted. Free VPNs make money by selling your "secret browsing*.

    The internet is nothing more than wires, if you connect your wire to someone elses, every intermediatary knows.

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    • Blizzard@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can use uBlock Origin and other privacy add-ons to block tracking and a VPN to hide your IP address but if you’re logged in to a search engine’s account then everything you search is tied to you no matter what you do.

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      • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you’re logged in a vpn that’s also true of the vpn, and all these measures are not stopping FAANGS

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