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• Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’ve always hated this justification of Fahrenheit. For it to be a good argument, 50 °F would need to be the ideal comfortable temperature. But instead 50 is really fucking cold. 100 just isn’t as hot as 0 is cold.

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  • turbowafflz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think it depends on the person which is the problem, for me 50 isn’t that cold but 100 is completely unbearable

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    • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, 50 F is chilly.

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      • Morphit@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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         0                             100
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        Dead                  Potentially survivable
                       Vs
                       Atm
         0                             100
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        Dead                           Dead
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         0                             100
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        Dead                      Totally  Fine
        

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      • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        See that Celsius graph is precisely the nonsense I’m trying to point out. 0 ℃ isn’t “fairly cold outside”. It’s literally the definition of freezing cold. 0 ℉ is “dead” if you’re not wearing quite heavy clothing. 0 ℃ is “really cold outside” and still understating things.

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  • pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Fully agree with you. How does that make sense:

    Really hot summer days (30°C) are 86°F

    Usual summer days (25°C) are 77°F

    Room temperature is ~70°F

    Spring / autumn days (20°C) are 68°F

    Chilly outside / late autumn / early spring days (~10°C) are 50°F

    Cool outside / warm winter days (~0°C) are 32°F

    Cold outside / usual winter days (~ -10°C) are ~15°F

    Winter nights (bit below -20°C) are ~ -10°F

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I mean, I deliberately avoided using terms like “hot summer days” and “usual winter day” because that’s far more dependent on where you are. Where I am it’s:

      • Really hot summer days (35 ℃)
      • Usual summer days (30 ℃)
      • Room temperature (24 ℃)
      • Spring / autumn days (25 ℃)
      • Chilly outside (18 ℃)
      • Cold outside / usual winter days (15 ℃)
      • Winter nights (10 ℃)

      So I used words that are about the experience of a person in those temperatures in comfortable light clothing, rather than times of year. And obviously there’s some subjectivity there, with some people being more comfortable in cold temperatures than others. But still, we’re talking about the comfortable mid point varying from mid 20s to high 10s. There’s no reasonable world in which 50 ℉ (10 ℃) is the midpoint.

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      • pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes, it doesn’t matter which example you take, Fahrenheit never makes sense imo.

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• TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Fahrenheit is 1-100 for humans

  Only if you grow up with it lol. Fahrenheit makes no sense to me

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  how is fahrenheit 1-100 for humans? 100 i can sorta see, most people have a body temp around ~37°C (though still, there’s about 1°C of variance…), but 0°F is very very cold and not exactly a temperature that many people encounter on a daily basis.

  i certainly cannot think of anything more relevant to humans than the freezing and boiling points of water, most people encounter them often and it’s very easy to see when water starts freezing or boiling.
  If you see ice outside you know the temp is below °C, when the water in your pot is boiling you know it’s at 100°C, it’s super fucking easy.

  But the reference points for fahrenheit cannot intuitively be measured, 0°F has no obvious indicator, and 100°F can at best be vaguely inferred based on the air temps we can do work in, and even then you can really only reliably infer something like 30°C because that’s generally when humans start feeling like it’s too warm to do significant amounts of labour.

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