I mean… if it’s true AGI, you’re basically talking about the Singularity, and I don’t think anyone, regardless of wealth or power, will be able to control them meaningfully in the long one without the AGI(s) in question doing something interesting in response.
Comment on What is going to happen when AI becomes extremely advanced?
cloudless@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
If there is AGI and it doesn’t turn hostile towards humans, hopefully there could be universal basic income?
But more likely, the rich and powerful have better access to advanced AI, and the poor get into even more difficult situations. It will probably be gradual like how machines replaced most factory workers.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
BugleFingers@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is why I like what I do, although not impossible to have robots/AGI do it, it definitely won’t be first in line due to the mix of labor, thinking/workarounds, and custom work/fixes needed. You’d need a sufficiently high functioning robot with good AGI and stellar fine motor controls.
I do agree though. It’ll likely make upperclass society way more luxury and less effort while the lower class wouldn’t see much to ease their way of life but might get some neat stuff to play with. There’d be a good argument for never developing fully automated systems to remove work from the people. Keeping people working gives the ruling class more power and takes away the lower class’s time and energy. Very beneficial for them if their intent is to keep power. It also allows them to control scarcity and ensure fiat money continues to exist. Keeping money around as an idea in a technically possible post scarcity world ensures a way to divide who is better off and how able you are to control others.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We’re already seeing it. Jobs are going down because AI allows companies to do the same work with less headcount.
There is no reality in which the workers actually benefit though. Never has been. When machine looms and steam engines came into being, the workers didn’t get any richer or had to work less for the same pay either. Jobs disappeared, most people got other jobs, some better, most worsew and the unluckiest starved.
History always repeats.
HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
What happened is that people started to stay longer in school, agricultural labour withered, and with it, kids having to work the fields at a very young age. People became more educated, resulting in more democratic societies, more equality, and a higher standard of living.
This was not because of the machine looms and steam engines, but because greedy fucks used them to put people in a position where they had no choice but to push back, and that labour action created unions, five-day work weeks, 8-hour days, paid time off for sickness and leisure, and pretty much everything we take for granted.
kernelle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So what you’re saying is we need a revolution?
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well I’m up for that. It’s just one of those things that arz kinda hard on your own.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No.
Only if the people fail to learn from history, they are bound to repeat it.
Valmond@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Which we seem to do lol
cloudless@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
Imagine if AI gets elected as the president of the USA because it is more advanced and reliable than human candidates. There has been nothing like that in history.
AGI would be very different to all other previous technological advances.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It is not the good ones that get elected.
AdNecrias@lemmy.pt 3 weeks ago
Just needs to be more orange then.