Comment on Avowed Runs at 30fps on Xbox Series X and S, Obsidian Confirms

• lengau@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If someone’s saying that about 30fps they should just set their refresh rate to 30 and move their mouse.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or just stand in a room with fluorescent lights and move their eyes

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• Thrashy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Might just be my middle-aged eyes, but I recently went from a 75Hz monitor to a 160Hz one and I’ll be damned if I can see the difference in action. Granted that don’t much in the way of twitch-style shooters anymore, but for me the threshold of visual smoothness is closer to 60Hz than whatever bonkers 240Hz+ refresh rates that current OLEDs are pushing.

  I’ll agree that 30fps is pretty marginal for any sort of action gameplay, though historically console players have been More forgiving of mediocre performance in service of more eye candy.

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  • OminousOrange@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If the two are beside eachother, you’ll definitely see the difference.

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    • Thrashy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The old one and the new one are literally side by side on my desktop, don’t know what to tell you…

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      • OminousOrange@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hmm, I’ve found it quite noticeable. Perhaps turn an FPS counter on and see what it’s actually running at. If you have a game showing on both screens, it’ll likely limit the fps to suit the lowest display hz.

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  • ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Games feel almost disgusting on 60hz now, but they felt fine before I tried 144hz.

    Maybe if I was stuck at 60hz for a long time id get used to it.

    Now though, if I switch for 30m I can’t ignore the difference.

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    • lustyargonian@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you primarily game on mouse or controller?

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      • ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Mouse, mostly. I’ve noticed that I feel lag much much more with mouse.

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  • jorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A 160hz refresh rate gives the software a 6ms render budget, do things actually even run at that rate?

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    • SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If your comp is good enough absolutely. Strong PCs now can run sub 5ms frame times at 4k pretty regularly. Especially for competitive games that aren’t designed to look incredible.

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    • ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can confirm 3-5ms frametimes with a popular shooter at 165hz.

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  • lengau@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It really depends what one’s doing, also. For many things, including many games, 30fps is fine for me. But I need at least 60fps for mousing. Beyond that though I don’t notice the mouse getting smoother above 60fps, but some games I do have a better experience at 120fps. And I’m absolutely sold on 500+ fps for simulating paper.

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  • r00ty@kbin.life ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That's weird. I'm getting to the age where I wouldn't see the point in 4k, I'd need to have my head on top of the screen to see it. But refresh rate can be felt in fluid scrolling etc and definitely even if only on the unconcious level, improves awareness in games too.

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• lustyargonian@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My work macbook can only do 60 while my Rog Ally can do 120, and damn the mouse feel of 120 is so much better that I hate my work laptop can’t do it.

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