Comment on As Trump and Harris call to end tip taxes, a wider minimum wage war heats up

• diybone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you are serious… Pay them a regular living wage… Remove the whole caveat that waiting staff is somehow different from any other job.

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  • return2ozma@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I agree.

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    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yup, they beat me to the punch but ensure a living wage.

      Also, we can try to be careful but everytime we add a “Type of income X isn’t taxed” the majority of untaxed income under that rule comes from the wealthy… dodging taxes is worth millions of dollars so the wealthy can hire teams of accountants to find loopholes.

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  • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would be concerned about having wait staff and other tipped positions be paid a livable minimum wage because it may cause people to stop tipping, which would result in a pay cut. There wouldn’t be the argument “They don’t even make minimum, I need to tip them.”, it would become “They make 22.50 an hour, I don’t need to tip them.”

    When I worked as a delivery driver, I did well only because of tips. If I was paid minimum wage and people stopped tipping, I would have been fucked.

    If they get paid a livable minimum and tips are still just as generous, that would be a huge win for people that could use it.

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    • Snazz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I worked as a delivery driver, I did well only because of tips. If I was paid minimum wage and people stopped tipping, I would have been fucked.

      So basically if your job had no tips, it would require a higher salary than minimum wage to retain workers.

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    • IamAnonymous@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You tip because they don’t make a minimum wage. I don’t get a tip when I do my work at my job. I certainly would be motivated to do a lot better if I got a tip after every meeting. I worked as a delivery driver and I did expect tips because I barely made money doing the deliveries but can’t expect it if I’m making a living wage.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not convinced tipping culture would change so quickly such that it would be an overnight decrease in net income.

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      • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In this economy? Tipping would change drastically if people knew the employee was paid 22.50.

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• megabat@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Eliminate the submiminum wage mentioned in the article, then increase the minimum wage to something you can live on

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  • return2ozma@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes.

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  • Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The sub min definitely needs to go. But my state is double the fed min and requires state min for wait staff. Min still isn’t a living wage, and tips are still needed.

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