Comment on Anyone else feel like Trump has a much higher chance to win then Presidency than Kamala?

superkret@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They always do that with women for some reason. It made sense for Hillary, since her husband was already President Clinton. It doesn’t make any sense for Harris

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  • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Who was getting confused which Clinton was running in 2016.

    If someone was switching between both in the same context, then it would either be Mr. Clinton and Mrs. Clinton, or Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t say they were getting confused. It was for clarity and distinction, not because people were confused. Although, had she won, a distinction would be imperative to prevent confusion, just like we do with the Roosevelts. Anyways, Hillary is the one who used Hillary, the rest of us just went along with it. Hillary was the name she chose for her campaign.

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  • KombatWombat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There doesn’t seem to be a pattern for whatever name politicians become known by colloquially, except last name is most common. Hillary makes sense to distinguish her from Bill, but I remember people generally using her first and last. Kamala is usually Kamala, but you see Harris too. Trump is Trump, but you’ll see people use his first name at times (like r/TheDonald). Biden is still referred to as Joe occasionally. Bernie was much more common than Sanders. For supreme court justices, it’s usually last name or first and last. I’ve never seen anyone refer to AOC as just Alexandria. Obama is Obama, but I’ve seen Barack in really informal contexts. Nancy Pelosi is first and last. Elizabeth Warren is either first and last or just last.

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think Sanders chose Bernie to make him seem more friendly and approachable, because he’s a pretty intense guy who looks angry otherwise.

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• BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Kamala just rolls off the keyboard better

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  • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please explain.

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• TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Kamala is a cooler name

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• BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes. Same as when Hilary Clinton ran. It was Hilary, not Clinton.

  Just social disrespect for women.

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  • solrize@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    H. Clinton actually used “Hillary!” in her campaign materials, plus sometimes she had to be distinguished from Bill. So she was a special case. I agree with you about Harris and I noticed that myself and wondered about it. I don’t remember it happening with Warren, Gabbard, Haley, Palin, or other female Presidential or VP contenders that I can think of offhand.

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  • Kolrami@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hear female supporters refer to her as Kamala. I think it might have more to do with the uniqueness of the name. I don’t know of anyone who referred to Sarah Palin as Sarah.

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    • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There have been 0 presidents named Harris. Who else is running with the name Harris? What is more unique about Kamala than Harris?

      Saying Kalama is unique is just saying, “Wow, look, a Black person. How exotic!”

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      • Kolrami@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Harris is a common name for Americans. Sarah is too. Her name isn’t Kalama. The error shows how exciting it is to you and your autocorrect.

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    • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hear her mom calls her Kamala. Doesn’t mean most people should, unless she specifically says for people to call her Kamala instead of Harris.

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  • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For Hillary it made sense since her husband was already widely known as Clinton.

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    • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We didn’t refer to the 43rd president as George since his father with the same last name was already the 41st president.

      People did not get confused which Clinton was running in 2016.

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      • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No, we called him George W., or Dub’ya. You can’t call him George because his dad was also George.

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  • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We call people what they put on their signs.

    Bernie.

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    • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How did you refer to Hillary Clinton before you saw a campaign slogan?

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      • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Full name, since public perception at the time associated the name “Clinton” with Bill.

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• oftencurious@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Probably because Kamala is easier than Donald and Trump is easier than Harris.

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