Comment on Technically Correct
leisesprecher@feddit.org 4 months agoIt’s security theater through and through.
Apart from the obvious failings of these checks, think about what kind of damage a single backpack of explosives can do to a packed airport during holiday season. You can literally put a ton of explosives on one of those trolleys, roll it into the waiting area and kill 200 people easily. No security whatsoever involved.
Reality is, most security measures are designed to keep the illusion of control. Nothing more. Penetration testers show again and again that you can easily circumvent practically all barriers or measures.
Tamo240@programming.dev 4 months ago
The goal is not to stop the people in the queue being attacked, its to stop someone boarding a plane with the means to hijack it
nednobbins@lemm.ee 4 months ago
They fail gloriously at at that too.
Whenever they get tested the red teams manage to smuggle in everything needed to hijiack a plane plus a kitchen sink.
The few times that terrorists tried to board planes, they made it through security and were caught by other passengers.
FinalRemix@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s what’s changed. Before, a hijacking meant a free trip to south America or Cuba. Now it means you’re likely to die if you don’t stop the hijackers. A planeful of pissed off passengers determined to live are gonna stop a would-be hijacker.
SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Plus the cockpit doors lock. Which can turn out to be a double-edged sword if the pilot has a breakdown and decides he wants to take everyone else with him.
Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Not if he has a bomb though
Liz@midwest.social 4 months ago
Yeah, and you don’t need the TSA for that. Just do as they already do: lock the cockpit.
w2tpmf@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Little known fact: many of the pilots behind those locked doors are armed as well.
The Flight Deck Officer program allows pilots to volunteer to become deputized Air Marshals. They receive training and are issued a badge and a gun.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Good guy with a gun, we’re not mentally ill at all !
intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Well, conceivably those in the cockpit could be manipulated through other threats. Either threats to crash the plane, or threats to hurt the people in the back.
w2tpmf@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Part of their training includes risk assessment that teaches them to sacrifice individuals if it is in favor of maintaining control of the plane.
They flat out train them to shoot through a hostage someone is holding. That one person’s life isn’t worth sacrificing the lives of hundreds of others on board as well is casualties on the ground.
Liz@midwest.social 4 months ago
Nah, you literally just ground the plane whenever someone does something that rises to that level. Any threat someone could bring on a plane that could take it down is easily found by a bomb dog.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
They had to do something about the plague of people hijacking planes with bottles of water.
Tamo240@programming.dev 4 months ago
IIRC water happens to appear similarly to a lot of explosives on the metric they use for what the composition of items in the scanner is.
Improvements are being made though so soon we may be allowed to take water through unrestricted:
Why Airport Security Suddenly Got Better (13:01) youtu.be/nyG8XAmtYeQ?si=RTjA8GRuZaMIJs9d
intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I’ll drown him! I swear to god I’ll drown him!
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ah yes, it’s okay if we die, just don’t take the corporate infrastructure with you when you go…