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JPEG is getting old in the tooth, which prompted the creation of JPEG XL, which is a fairly future-proof new compression standard that can compress images to the same file size or smaller than regular JPEG while having massively higher quality.

However, JPEG XL support was removed from Google Chrome based browsers in favor of AVIF, a standalone image compression derived from the AV1 video compression codec that is decidely not future-proof, having some hardcoded limitations, as well as missing some very nice to have features that JPEG XL offers such as progressive image loading and lower hardware requirements. The result of this is that JPEG XL adoption will be severely hamstrung by Google’s decision, which is ultimately pretty lame.

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nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
And here we have a clear example of how Chrome’s almost monopoly is a bad thing for us.

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- HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Not almost monopoly.
  
  Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly,
  
  the US govt
  
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- Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Monopolies don’t require 100% of a market. Just enough to effectively manipulate a market.
  
  One firm might only be 10% of a market. But if every other firm is only 1-2%, that 10% will have an outsized monopolistic ability to manipulate that market.
  
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- princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  AV1 Image File Format is an open, royalty-free image file format
  
  While I am by no means trying to defend Google, or their monopoly, I’m struggling to see how this time is a “clear example” of monopolistic behaviour?
  
  Like, take for contrast the Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) image format HEIC, which Apple has adopted as it’s main high-res format on iOS. It’s proprietary, and that fact is indeed worrying. However, the only reason I can figure out for Google’s move here being a ‘bad’ thing, is if you’re nostalgic about the .jpg extension…
  
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  - nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I didn’t mean the choice of image format is a monopolistic behavior, but that the monopoly puts google in a position that any choice they make, be it a good or bad one, becomes an industry standard, without others having any choice in it.
    
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- onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I hope an opensource, non-C/C++ browser will pop up that can claw back from Chrome/Chromium. It’s about time.
  
  Anti Commercial-AI license
  
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  - Markaos@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Why not just say Rust? There isn’t really anything else that would provide good enough performance for a browser engine with modern heavy webpages while also fixing some major pain point of C/C++
    
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    onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Go is not an option? Zig neither? Even Java would be better (it’s used in high-frequency trading).
    
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Zoop@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Once again I find myself thinking, “Dammit, Google!”

Thank you very much for the text summary, I really appreciate it :)

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- ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  No worries! :D
  
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adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I’d also highly recommend reading endsoftwarepatents.org/…/googles-decision-to-depr… — more than features and future proofing, the big issue here is patents. Google controls the patents for AVIF.

Then again, I use HEIF, which is alternately patent encumbered, and default to PNG and SVG for web-facing graphics.

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GammaGames@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Also fluffykins broke the camera recording again

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protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
*long in the tooth

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- ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Ah! quite right, thanks for the correction :)
  
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averyminya@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Meh, we all should just move.to .PNG anyway

/S kinda

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