Comment on How does renouncing citizenship work?

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yeah, being stateless is really bad. There’s a few international agreements to avoid the creation of more stateless people, but it still happens.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statelessness

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Exactly what I was wondering, thanks. I assume you have to renounce before acquiring a new citizenship? No thanks.

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    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      No, other way around. Most countries won’t even allow you to renounce if you don’t have another citizenship.

      The US also charges $10,000 dollars to accept your renunciation. The US is one of the few countries that taxes its citizens in foreign countries. There is a substantial tax deduction for the first ~150K you earn in another country, as long as you spend less than 10 days in America or traveling and pay taxes in that country, as long as that country has such an agreement with the US.

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      • frickineh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s $2350 to renounce, not $10k.

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  • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    All the examples listed in Wiki seem very different from what OP is talking about. Most of the stateless persons are located in 4 counties. Crazy.

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• jbrains@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Countries typically don’t allow that. For example, Canada requires you (at least) to be a citizen of another country and to live outside Canada.

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  • doughless@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The UN would likely consider it a violation of their human rights if a country knowingly allowed a citizen to become stateless. I would hope that at least all member states would not allow it, but I don’t know for certain.

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    • PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can renounce us citizenship any time you’d like. They don’t care if you’ll become stateless. But you definitely do not want to be stateless.

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      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Now you have me wondering about legal juristiction of mermaids in international waters…

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The USA allows it. Though I imagine the embassy staff will probably try to warn you.

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Usually your old country takes you back in that case unless there’s some problem like you married an ISIS fighter.

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