I’m not suggesting that an aryan-looking guy with a legally purchased assault rifle could take out a marching nazi regiment, but I am suggesting someone else has suggested that at some point. Last name . . Gratton? Matton? I forget.
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Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Let them march. A bigger problem is that a huge number of people seem to think they’re a thing of the past and don’t really exist in any strength. Let them prove otherwise.
You can’t suppress them into defeat anyway, we’ve tried that before.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 months ago
femtech@midwest.social 4 months ago
We didn’t though, we let them fester, just like the Confederates. We should have also, not let them fester.
Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Actually, Ulysses S Grant clamped down very brutally on groups like the KKK during the Reconstruction Era, essentially continuing the civil war against the south in a sense. He ended up reducing their strength significantly and driving them underground.
Unfortunately, an idea cannot be destroyed with military might, it can only be fought by teaching critical thinking skills and sound information gathering and decision-making methods, so people don’t think so stupidly.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Act_of_1870
Note the line that says the law allows the use of the army to enforce it, that’s what Grant ended up doing.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 months ago
We can’t suppress them into defeat!? What?? That’s how the German Nazis were defeated! That’s how modern Nazis have been symbolically defeated, worldwide. “We don’t serve you here.” Any place, anywhere in the world, if an equal number of people stand up against them and for human equality, they run away with their results between their legs. They’re fucking Nazis…
Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months ago
There were several laws put in place in postwar Germany that specifically suppressed them. This was broadly effective, though I think the modern-day position of the AfD shows it was not completely so.
In the US, any such legislation would be struck down in court as unconstitutional.
So, it’s just not that simple.
andyburke@fedia.io 4 months ago
Newsflash: some number of people are absolute shitbags.
If you let them take over and run the show it's gonna get real bad.
Nazis are absolute shitbags. They will always be around in some number. You need to always suppress them so they don't fuck up the good shit we have managed to eek out.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
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Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Well, yes, you definitely don’t want to let them take over. You want to demonstrate your own strength, and how much you outnumber them.
This is not preventing them from marching in some way, though. That is not doable, it would be illegal. It would also be counterproductive in our current climate of most people underestimating the actual danger.
VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Right, so you start beating the shit out of them until they learn to shut the fuck up and stop showing up. Make them afraid.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Yep.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The German Nazis were defeated with overwhelming manpower & firepower, not passive suppression.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 months ago
They were defeated by actually standing up to them. That’s all I’m suggesting we do now!
Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Okay, I guess I misinterpreted what you meant by suppression. Yes, by all means, stand up to them.