I think you will find that war isn’t a very useful metaphor for this kind of conflict.
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Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 months agoWho’s joking about it?
This is a war, people die in war. If our enemy doesn’t want to die, let them forfeit their “power” and surrender.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
psud@aussie.zone 4 months ago
Does it really have to be? A class war (as actual war) has to be better than any other sort of war
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Well, I was trying to be charitable. People who seriously want to murder people they’ve never met have serious emotional problems and should seek therapy.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 months ago
It’s not about wanting to murder people you’ve never met, it’s about wanting to defend yourself and others.
These people are actively waging class war against us, and they hold all the power while letting the planet be destroyed.
It is imperative they go ASAP, if they won’t go voluntarily the other option is by force.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
It’s not at all the same. Violent self defense is acceptable because it’s an instantaneous decision with few options and no time to consider alternative strategy. It’s not because murdering bad people is totally fun and cool.
Yes, bad things are happening, and radical actions are justified, if they improve the situation, and if less harmful options are unavailable or ineffective. But we could spend the entire next year debating and discussing how to defeat and destroy the power of the rich, and if we come away with a successful strategy, everything would be fine. It’s not the same as Elon Musk cornering us in a dark alley with a gun. The people collectively have far more power than the ruling class, and that power, in the present time, is most effectively wielded non-violently. We still have plenty of time and power to act, if we organize.
I don’t find this argument that going on a murder-rampage is the best strategy compelling at all. This type of behavior has never produced better living conditions any time in history that I can think of. These violent fantasies have nothing to do with the organization and action that will solve our problems, and instead act as strange fantasies for disturbed people, and to convince people that leftists are all violent weirdos.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 months ago
What are you on about? It’s the reason why we live in the conditions that we do. People used to literally kidnap and kill CEO’s, that’s how we got workers rights, marginalised/discriminated groups have had to continuously protest and riot to bring attention to their causes and get changes either systemic or social enacted or discussed.