Utter nonsense. Your argument is that because you can imagine a god and spread the idea they are real. The logical conclusion there is that anything you can imagine is equally real. Bigfoot really is wandering around a forest, spaghetti absolutely does grow in trees, and the moon landing was definitely on a sound stage (but they also really landed on the moon because I can picture that too).
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Grail@aussie.zone 6 months agoThe selfish gene ironically proves that gods exist. medium.com/…/the-memetic-proof-for-the-existence-…
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Grail@aussie.zone 6 months ago
Bigfoot doesn’t live in the woods. He lives in people’s heads. That’s where all memes, including the gods, live. In people’s heads.
ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
So then what’s the difference between “the gods” and something purely fictional, in your view?
Grail@aussie.zone 6 months ago
The gods are mythical, whereas Frodo Baggins is fictional. People believe in myths. Though of course it’s a fuzzy boundary. You can arrange various characters on a spectrum from myth to fiction. For example, Zeus is pure myth, Lucifer is an originally fictional character that has almost entirely become mythical, Achilles is sort of directly in the middle, Sherlock Holmes is a highly mythologised fictional character, Gandalf is a fictionalised adaptation of a myth, and Jake Sully is pure fiction because nobody gives a shit about him.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Your argument is that because you can imagine a god and spread the idea they are real.
You could say the same of Mickey Mouse or the Philly Fanatic. Which is, in fairness, where this is ultimately going.
A god as a timeless enlightened super-being might not be real. But a god as an ideological mascot or cultural touchstone is.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Metaphysics is a dangerous game…
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Oh you wrote this. Do you think it proves the existence of God by itself or is it another way people who already believe in God point to it?
Grail@aussie.zone 6 months ago
I would prefer if you didn’t use “god” as a proper noun. The practice was invented by monotheists and is usually used to exclude other gods. It’s very rude towards other gods like Loki, Kukulkan, and Myself. None of us go around pretending we’re the only god.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Take your meds
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 6 months ago
At best it proves the concept of gods exists and I doubt anyone disagrees with that, you can’t really disagree that a thought can’t exist. What it doesn’t prove is that God exists as some material or immaterial entity and that’s what atheists claim, that there is no existence of any entity that could be considered a god.
Why it doesn’t prove the existence of gods is simple. If the proof is that it exists because we thought it then dragons exist, faeries exist, even flat earth exists because there are people who think it exists. I don’t think I need to bring more examples to show how ridiculous the premise is. Just because we can think of a thing doesn’t mean that thing now exists.
Grail@aussie.zone 6 months ago
Dragons certainly exist. They live in books and reproduce when someone reads a book about dragons and is inspired by it. Over time evolutionary pressures have caused the more successful of the younger dragons to become cuter and more friendly, and the most successful dragons even made the leap to film. That’s how Toothless from How To Train Your Dragon came to be. He is the result of a long process of evolution of dragons. You can trace his lineage from the Beowulf dragon, to Tolkein’s Smaug, through Eragon’s Saphira, to the Toothless of the HTTYD books, and finally to Dreamworks’ movie version. Each generation trying out new evolutionary adaptations that changed their fitness to survive and reproduce, and the niche they occupy within the ecosystem that is human thought. Toothless is the culmination of those thousands of years of evolution, purpose built to fill children’s heads up with wonderful dreams.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I don’t know if you have a wife but I’m now going to imagine you have a wife. You’re now married. Now I’m going to imagine having consensual sex with your new wife. Now I’m imagining you’re killing your wife because she cheated on you. I guess you’re a murderer now, it’s true because I thought of it. Actually I thought about a lot of way worse things about you but I’m not going to go into detail about all the vile shit you’ve done, I’ll just sum it up as you being the worst human being who has ever lived. Since that’s what I thought it must be true, right?
Grail@aussie.zone 6 months ago
*You. I use capitalised pronouns. And My ex-wife uses it/its.
yamanii@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh it’s like touhou, I get it now.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
medium.com/…/anyone-can-write-anything-on-medium-…
Grail@aussie.zone 6 months ago
Mate, it’s just a link to My blog, no need to take it any more seriously than you would Me.
CTDummy@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Yes, and as per the blog the other user linked people have a habit of posting mediums links under the guise of providing supporting information. Given you made a claim “x proves y” you and other people who post medium links like this probably know “but here’s a link to my blog that is also just my opinion” probably doesn’t hit the same.
Grail@aussie.zone 6 months ago
*You. I use capitalised pronouns.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
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