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The thing that bothers me the most about (mostly right-wing) anti-covid propaganda is that they use the argument that it was rushed to market. The vaccines were rushed to market thanks to an FDA emergency provision that removed a lot of the “red tape” that companies normally have to go through to get any medical item into the hands and/or bodies of consumers.

So many right-wing politicians campaign on the promise of removing red tape and getting rid of these things that protect all of us. This is literally what they say they want.

Chalk another one up for right wing hypocrisy, I suppose…

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FaeDrifter@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Chalk another one up for right wing hypocrisy, I suppose…

The only right wing value is the acquisition of power and influence, that’s why they don’t hold to any position, they will just stand wherever benefits them the most in that moment.

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- TechnoBabble@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  And by they, you mean the right wind politicians in power.
  
  The people who vote for them are constantly voting against their immediate interests.
  
  If we had some sort of ranked choice, a lot of these one-issue voters might actually have a choice in their representation. Which would be good for all of us.
  
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- aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  What does “left wing” and “right wing” mean?
  
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  - cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    history.com/…/how-did-the-political-labels-left-w…
    
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    aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The origin of a word is largely distinct from how people use it in the modern day.
    
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  - FaeDrifter@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Broadly speaking, left wing is about creating change, ideally for more equality or the betterment of all. Right wing is about conserving the status quo and traditional power hierarchies, because they are accustomed to benefiting from them.
    
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    aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    So would ideologies like fascism, georgism, anarcho-capitalism, ethno-nationalism, etc be left-wing?
    
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Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Also, these vaccines were not developed in under a year. There was literally several DECADES of research and testing on coronavirus vaccines (anyone remember SARS), and mRNA / adenovirus vaccine tech.

Saying these were rushed is a flat out lie.

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- aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  They were rushed in that they did rush to accelerate the development- largely through increased development. However, that does not make them unsafe. Of course investing more into research can generally speed it up.
  
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  - Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The only thing that was accelerated was the scale of the tech infrastructure and the testing to target this specific variant of coronavirus. Coronavirus vaccines, and the modern technology to deliver the vaccines, was developed and piloted long before the COVID 19 started floating around.
    
    We were lucky AF.
    
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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- enki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Where did you read this nonsense? The COVID vaccines are FAR more effective at preventing illness and death than the flu shot. The things we learned about mRNA vaccines made for COVID will be used to improve the flu shot and other vaccines in the future. There is quite literally no reasonable argument against the vaccines. They’re extremely safe and extremely effective.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    There is quite literally no reasonable argument against the vaccines.
    
    I’m not making one.
    
    I’m arguing the continued need for masks to inhibit spread and further development to protect the very old and very young who can’t benefit from them.
    
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- Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Like annual flu shots, the covid shot are freaking amazing at keeping people alive and out of the hospital. Do the ensure that you won’t get sick? No. The point is to reduce severity and spread.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    Do the ensure that you won’t get sick? No.
    
    Plenty of vaccines do. More R&D is needed. Masking, particularly during new outbreaks is needed.
    
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- DarkWasp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  This simply isn’t true, they’re extremely effective at preventing serious illness and death. Variants came along that stressed them but the main purpose of those two things has stood firm.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    they’re extremely effective at preventing serious illness and death
    
    But underwhelming at preventing infection and spread, particularly for newer variants.
    
    Which is why further R&D needs to continue. And people still need to mask up if they want to avoid contributing to contagion.
    
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- HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  The Covid vaccines were really very effective against the original strains they were developed against. They effectively reduced the chances of infection.
  
  By the time we got to omicron- less so, though still good at preventing serious disease
  
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aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Generally right-wingers oppose efficacy requirements not long term safety trials- the COVID vaccine simply did not have enough time for that. Or they oppose the FDA entirely- which is a different thing because then you could hold drug companies liable rather than them being able to lean on the FDA for protection.

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