Comment on Stay Mad

• nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  1000 people stormed the capitol. Allowing trump to win is far far far worse. Federal judge appointments alone are worth far more.

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  • retrospectology@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, Hillary and the DNC allowed Trump to win by ignoring their base and chasing imaginary “swing” voters. And now they’re doing it again.

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• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Republican party wouldn’t exist if everybody voted. That is a straight up fact. As fucked as our election system is, they are far enough the minority that if everyone got out, the EC wouldn’t matter.

  You want a “left light” and a “true left”, you aren’t going to get it by abstaining, or by voting for nonviable moonshot third-party candidates. You are going to get it by abolishing the far right party and making that tiny sliver of the whole population realize that their antiquated views aren’t welcome here.

  They need to be crushed.

  They only exist because people don’t want to vote for the lesser of two evils, so instead they just don’t vote. And what do you know, a -1 for the less evil is just as effective as a +1 for the more evil.

  All of their success is brought on by feeding apathy in their opposition, making it more difficult to vote, destroying any faith in the system, and gerrymandering.

  So yes, in my opinion, the far left refusing to hold their nose for a few minutes maybe we’ll be voting for the insurrectionist.

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  • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They need to be crushed.

    Then the way to do that is find a candidate in the primaries who appeals to everyone you need to make that happen. It was never a secret Biden was not that person.

    Feel free to believe whatever you want though. But you won’t have my help. Let me know when you’re ready to negotiate.

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    • ProIsh@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And if the Republicans get power this time around with a plan to remove all of our rights to hold even fair elections (project 2025) there won’t be any negotiating. I’m a white cis male and it seems like you are too. We’ll be fine either way. It’s minorities and vulnerable classes that will get hit the most, like always. Women lost rights this last time around, it worries me how much more worse it will get.

      Do I want Joe? Hell no, but I’ll vote D for the rest of my days and walk through glass to do it. Once there’s no more Rs then we can argue between Joe Biden and AOC. Still ain’t perfect but a lot better than what we have.

      It’s a free country for now, feel free to sit this one out.

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      • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And if the Republicans get power this time around with a plan to remove all of our rights to hold even fair elections (project 2025) there won’t be any negotiating.

        Sounds like the 2020 primaries were pretty important.

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  • retrospectology@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So this happened under Obama. People voted blue no matter who, gave Dems a super majority and they used it to pass a GOP-crafted bill that forced people to pay for useless private insurance.

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  • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In a two party system the only way to “crush” the extreme right is by establishing another party to take the spot in the two party system. And you know what will happen then? The Dems will move from being the far right party with gay rights to being the extreme right party. Because they already are far right by any sensible measure.

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  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ll let Lawrence O’Donnell, MSNBC host and Democratic insider explain.

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• NecroParagon@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  33 after I just upvoted. Vote for the Joe.

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• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Who said that? No one said that refusing to vote is doing more damage than storming the Capitol.

  You quoted it. Weird starting point to gaslight people.

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