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Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

The belief in a hell or in a Limbo kind of prove that paradise is not for everyone. Depends which dogmas you grew up with, at this point.
About God being sacrificed to himself, it was mainly a way to stop an old tradition of sacrificing goats every year in order to atone for sins. Now people can just say that the Christ already died for that, so they don’t have to act like barbarians and kill poor animals.

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Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The offer is for everyone, people choose whether or not to take Him up on it

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- Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  “I sell luxury housing for everyone, it’s not my fault if some people are poor!”
  My brother in christ, YOU made poor people.
  
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  - Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Difference is luxury houses cost money, Jesus does not
    
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  - psud@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I recall something in his favourite part of the Bible about rich men, camels, eye of a needle and heaven
    
    Anyone surviving in a major western nation and not living on the streets in a place with no welfare is well rich in terms of camels and needle eyes
    
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- Pandantic@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Again, depends on the dogma. There are faiths which believe that people who are ignorant of the Gospel, of Jesus, do not get into Heaven.
  
  desiringgod.org/…/what-about-those-who-have-never…
  
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  - Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Within our lifetimes, God reveals Himself to us. It’s the following of the Holy Spirit which leads us to Jesus. However, it’s next to impossible these days for the vast majority of the world’s population to not hear about Jesus. God knows everyone’s hearts. I think this video explains it well. However, basically everyone who has access to the comment I made and this forum has access to the Gospel. It is very much a free offering. It’s also worth realising that missionary work is also important, and there’s a reason why I want people to have another chance to hear about Jesus
    
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- psud@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Catholic dogma (which pre-dates whatever you follow) says unbaptised babies aren’t qualified for heaven, and believers have surreptitiously baptised babies and children of non-Christian background
  
  What good deity punishes people for not reaching an age where they might be baptised? Especially when the dead baby is dead thanks to His ineffable plan
  
  What good deity punishes people born before their invention for not knowing about them?
  
  What good deity punishes people for being born in a country where that deity is unpopular
  
  But I’m sure your version is softened so good people all get heaven.
  
  Judaism says you have to be of one of the Jewish tribes. And that pre-dates all Christianity.
  
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  - Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Good thing the Catholics are wrong, then
    
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    psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Just like everyone else. But also how would you possibly know?
    
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