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dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean we can have large games with detailed graphics and have employees treated well. We just need to accept 10+ year timelines for releases on big games which I’m ok with as long as we get quality results and the team is treated well.

  I follow star citizen though so I could be the weird one here lol

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  • squaresinger@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And then you need someone to foot the bill for all that. Preferrably ahead of time.

    That’s kinda how lucky Star Citizen got, but that’s not a business model you can replicate a second time.

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    • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s a valid point. As long as there’s a publisher and investors we’re more than likely never going to see what I suggested, I kinda forgot star citizen is what it is because it’s funded by us.

      It’s always the same crunch time for employees and rushed buggy products to feed the investors from “AAA” corps. Hope we can push for some positive change :/

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      • NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I can’t understand why crunch time has become so normalised. There’s no other software development project where constantly failing to plan for the needed time requirement would be accepted. Crunch is a sign of bad project management, it isn’t normal.

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      • squaresinger@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The main differences with Star Citizen are that it’s

        • Funded in advance
        • Funded by people who have no say in how the product/company should work
        • Massively overfunded

        This means, CIG has no pressure to ship soon or even at all (if the project fails, they have no liability). They also have nobody telling them what to with the money. They have already made their profit.

        I am not knocking CIG for this situation, but if you put it like this, it’s easy to see why for each CIG out there, there are tens of thousands of games on crowdfunding sites that either

        • Failed to raise funds
        • Failed to get a decent company/legal structure running with the money they raised
        • Failed to actually ever deliver anything in an usable state
        • Are just pure scams

        So as a general business model rather than just an insane stroke of luck, I don’t think this is a good option.

        A business model that only earns money after release (like the classic publisher-funded development model) is bad for the obvious cash-grabby and buggy reasons, but at least it consistently delivers games. Contrary to the “earn money before you start development” model that is enabled by crowdfunding, which in general does not deliver games.

        In my (not very educated) opinion, early access is probably the best middle ground. You start off with little initial funding required, but by the time you turn to the crowd, you already have a working prototype and company structure. That makes it much more likely for the game to eventually be released in a full version. This option obviously comes with its own downsides as well, but many of my favourite games have been small studios or even individuals who use early acces to fund development.

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Dreaming of riding an army of unicorns to battle.

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• Notyou@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Does this include Hollow Knight? Because I want more of that. I can’t wait for Silksong!

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  • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hollow Knight is the definition of “Rockstar-level nonsense for scope”

    I can’t believe the large majority of it was made by two people. I have 70 hours in that game and still have a couple things I haven’t beaten yet.

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