Comment on "Sponsored recommendations": I pay for Spotify Premium, and yet somehow I'm still the product?

loom_in_essence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• TheProtagonist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A bit difficult if you want to just stream random music that somehow matches your interests.

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  • loom_in_essence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you’re going to p1r@te, you don’t have to pay sp0tify to do it…

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    • BURN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not going to deal with a seed box and a ton of pain in the ass steps in between to listen to music. I’d rather pay Spotify or Amazon or Google or any of the other providers because of the convenience factor.

      Also owning music isn’t something I particularly care about. Games, maybe, but music is so broad that I’ll just listen to something else.

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      • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There are patches like spicetify which can do that and way more than just adblocking with a ton of customisation if that’s what you’re looking for

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      • loom_in_essence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        WTF is a seedbox?

        I have no trouble listening to unlimited music, it’s literally everywhere.

        Plus it’s not just about owning the album (although I absolutely insist on listening on whichever device I choose). It’s also about paying the artist.

        Sp0tify pays peanuts. When I buy the album from the band’s site or bandcamp they get a hell of a lot more money from me. And I want to support them.

        You cannot support any artist through Spotify.

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    • beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That doesn’t really fix the “somehow matches your interests” part of their need. Your torrent software isn’t able to track your listening habits and recommend things that other people with similar habits also liked.

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      • CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Pandora is still around and does a decent job finding new music based off listening habits.

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s other streaming services. I’d recommend any over Spotify.

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    • TheProtagonist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which one do you prefer / recommend?

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      • jyoskykid@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Soundcloud is one! Some artists let you download their music and others don’t. Other than than Soundcloud isn’t open source, I don’t see what’s wrong with them.

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      • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ve been enjoying apple music on Android (the audacity) mainly for family plan convenience. I used to use Tidal, back when it was the only one offering higher wauility audio. Now that’s more common. However I do miss a few things from Tidal. It had full credits for albums and songs like a CD would have. And when you’re on a track and go to the artist it will let you pick which one you want if there’s features or a collab. Apple Music will just automatically take you to the page of the first artist listed. So that’s something to consider especially if you’re in to hip-hop.

        There’s many options though and they pretty much all pay artists more than Spotify does too.

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• Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Bandcamp is DRM-free, so whatever you buy there, you truly own it. Unlike on most other platforms.

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  • beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    DRM-protected music stores went extinct over a decade ago, following Steve Jobs open letter to the music industry on the topic.

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    • Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wow, you are right! I was confused about iTunes, because it seems to require an app, but it is DRM-free together and so is Amazon Music. That’s great! So I guess only Spotify has DRM.

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      • beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        All the streaming services use DRM, it’s just download stores that are DRM-free. Which makes sense, when you buy an album, you should own it.

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• ImpossibilityBox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s personally a catch 22 for me.

  I listen to an absolutely absurd amounts of different artists. A large portion of them simply don’t have albums available for purchase and if they did… I would actually go broke buying all the stuff I listen to.

  Every single day I type in a Combo of 2 random letters and numbers into spotify and listen to the first artist I don’t recognize.

  It really sucks that Spotify doesn’t pay the artists anything reasonable but I haven’t found an alternative that allows me to consume as much different music as I currently do.

  This isn’t even including the podcasts and audio books into the equation.

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  • loom_in_essence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s the same as pirating, except Spotify gets paid.

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why letters and numbers?

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    • ImpossibilityBox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some artists use numbers in their names and adding numbers will change what the search returns sometimes with odd results.

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• NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Greedy business model seems slightly unfair tbh. Spotify struggles to remain profitable and they’ve only raised their prices by like $1 in a decade

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  • loom_in_essence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just because they’re incompetent doesn’t mean they’re not greedy.

    Also, executives can still be cleaning up even as the company struggles to profit.

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    • NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Executives being greedy isn’t the same as a greedy business model

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      • loom_in_essence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This makes no sense. Greedy execs are the ones who would implement a greedy business model to pursue their greed.

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  • FinalRemix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maybe they shouldn’t’ve thrown so much money into the pivot to podcasts, then thrown a bunch of money at that meathead idiot.

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    • loom_in_essence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah that $100 billion they gave Joe Rogan is where your payments go.

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      • FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        they didn’t give Joe Rogan 100 billion dollars you dunce.

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      • 30isthenew29@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No company in their right mind would pay one person $100,000,000,000! Come on!

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  • notatoad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    yeah, it’s not spotify’s fault that splitting $10/month between all the music you listen to doesn’t pay the artists very much.

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    • NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yea, companies that pay more typically either charge more (Tidal) or have the advantage of a massive profitable company backing them (Apple Music)

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• Ktheone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Honestly it’s a shame that most good music pirating sites have gone to the shitter, literally the only way to actually pirate and own music I could find via searching vigorously was through youtube to MP3 converters.

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