DST is good actually. Fire me.
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Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Dammit people, we need to stay focused. First abolish DST THEN institute the metric system! We have to have our priorities in order and stay organized or we will never accomplish anything!
Bob@midwest.social 4 months ago
aeharding@vger.social 4 months ago
DST is bad, byte me
PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Sun tracking locally is good actually. Smyte me.
Eyelessoozeguy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why not just metric, so we can get those metric seconds, then daylight time wouldn’t matter anymore.
candybrie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If we abolish DST, I think we should tweak some of our timezones. With dst, where I’m at the sun is currently rising before 5. If we kept standard time, it would be up before 4. Sun rise at 3 something and sunset at 7 something is really out of whack with how most people want sun allocated to their day.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I’m sorry but divided we fall. It’s this kind of nonsense that impeeds progress. One thing at a time. Just get rid of it and then tweaks can be made on the state level. Arizona for example already abolished DST.
candybrie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’d honestly rather the switching than ending up on standard time year round.
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why do you want the sun to set early?
I’d rather have an extra hour of sun after work than an hour of sun before work
I think most people enjoy DST. Most complain when it’s dark at 5 pm.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I don’t give the first two half-flaccid thrusts of a reluctant pity fuck what number the clock says when the sun rises or sets. 4, 5, 6, 11, don’t care. It’s the practice of changing the clocks twice a year that needs to die in a fire.
The logic should be “Let’s open our business from 7 to 4 instead of 8 to 5 so that we have more free time during sunlight hours in the evening” not “Let’s change all the clocks everywhere so that the sun is two fingers higher in the sky when the clocks say 5 so that we have more free time during the sunlight hours in the evening.” You want to vary YOUR routine with the seasonal change in sunlight hours? Great. “Summer hours 7 to 4, winter hours 8 to 5” or whatever. Managing this by changing all clocks everywhere causes more problems than it solves. I don’t know if I could intentionally invent a stupider solution to the “problem.”
bitwaba@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This has been the thought in my head when the argument comes up. Glad I’m not alone.
Preach on brother!
ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 months ago
noon is when the sun is highest in the sky.
for half the year, we are going to collectively lie about where the ball of fire in the sky is.
it’s insanity.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I was a pilot in a past life. Night flight is quite different than day flight, because it’s darker up there than you think. A lot of nations outright don’t allow night VFR requiring night flight to be done IFR, some others have optional night flight endorsements or ratings for night VFR. But it’s a training requirement for American private pilots.
Because it is a regulatory matter, there has to be a strict definition of “night time.” Which is where we get the concept of “civil twilight” which IIRC is the moment when the center point of the sun’s disc is between 0 and 6 degrees below the horizon. “Night time” is officially the time when the sun is 6 or more degrees below the horizon. Exactly when this happens changes every single day as the days get longer and shorter, so you still have to look it up. The exact moment of local solar noon is even less important unless you’re navigating by sextant, and the way we currently solve this kind of problem is we maintain an accurate clock calibrated in GMT, UTC or Unix Timecode depending on your exact use case, and then we do the math on the fly to convert to local time. When is local solar noon today at my exact location? 18:32:40 GMT.
sep@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You can make summer time the regular time you know. Removing dst is about getting rid of changing the clocks twice a year.
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“Summer time” is DST
If you removed DST, we would always be on standard time.
What you are saying is make DST permanent, not removing DST
sep@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What anyone mean when they say get rid of dst is to stop the flipflopping.
But i guess you are technically right. Witch i have heard is the best kind of right. Even if very pedantic ;)
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
You think that because it’s how you feel or you have different stats on opinions taken from large samples in an unbiased fashion that lead you to believe this?
If it’s the former please see paylesspower.com/…/beyond-the-clock-exploring-the…
If the latter, please consider sharing your data.
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ahh, yes, 1002 people is a large sample size, like .003% of the population.
Your article is also about switching. Doesn’t say anything about if people would prefer to stay on DST or standard time.
Bob@midwest.social 4 months ago
The way statistical sampling works, 1000 people in a population of 300,000,000 is actually good enough for most things. You can play around with numbers here to convince yourself, but at 95% confidence 1000 people will give an answer to within 3% of the true answer for the 300,000,000 population.
candybrie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think it depends on where you are in your timezone if you prefer DST or standard time. But most people seem to not like changing the clock. It just turns into a fight if we should stay on DST or standard time year round.