Comment on Venus Fly Traps

• modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Which I think is really fine for casual internet conversation. It’s not even attributing human characteristics, just mis-characterizing what is happening. But it’s a useful way to short hand it, especially if the discussion is more about the result than the process.

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  • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, there’s absolutely nothing about the wording of this post that indicates they actually believe “it’s learning” as opposed to just using quite a common shorthand.

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    • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Personally, I’m not a fan of these shorthands, because I’ve seen many people (including me when growing up) make some pretty glaring logical errors based on them. And particularly with creationists also existing, I’m really wary of people thinking it’s an intelligent process.

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    • batmaniam@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Agreed, and I spent like a decade in protein engineering and pre-biotic chemistry.

      And if someone really wants to be a pedant about it, go ahead and prove conscious “intent” is inherently different than, not just a more complex form of, what’s going on here. If someone’s managed to solve all of the philosophy around consciousness, self, and intent, they could really save us all a bunch a time! Until then, pedantically, you’re not wrong to say the plant “knows” to do this as much as I “know” to pay my rent; it’s all just chemical reactions based on environment.

      … Or we could allow people to enjoy the pressures and reasons that give rise to the subtle aspects of organism in this complex ecosystem we call earth without being a dick about it, and trust that the level of language specificity will increase/decrease commiserate to the degree of precision the topic requires.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Evolution is best described as “survivorship bias.”

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    • rockerface@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Biologically powered bruteforcing

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