Fascism has nothing to do with colonial vs imperial, wtf
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BakerBagel@midwest.social 7 months agoFascism isn’t just authoritarianism. It is a certain set of conditions that can essentially be boiled down to as “colonial violence against the imperial core” but it is incredibly more complicated than that.
Words have meaning, and you should look up those meanings before you start just throwing them around.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 months ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Can’t have fascism without a strong national identity and an activist military.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Which again is an entirely separate thing from colonialism. The two may go together but they’re not necessarily linked in any way.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Which colonial power lacks a politically influential profit-seeking military?
KarfiolosHus@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
The political spectrum is not linear, but circular and fascism and communism sit on the join but with different lie.
Coming from a country that experienced both several times in the past century, I hope the real people tankies would just shut up and move to Russia to learn a life lesson.
orrk@lemmy.world 7 months ago
nope, the Marx Leninist idea of a vanguard party doesn’t even purport to be communism, rather the idea that you must go through a phase of state capitalism to grow the nation’s capital after a revolution (revolutions tend to destroy capital) before you can enact communism, it’s just that during the age of ML Fascism was the popular new political ideology, and Lenin did heavily base the idea of the vanguard party on a lot of the same basic understanding as the fascists did.
and of course the fascists did what they do and killed the lefties
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
fascism and communism sit on the join but with different lie.
Don’t leave us hanging.
orrk@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Words DO have meaning, and you just butchered so many of them it’s not even funny.
fundamentally, fascism is the belief that social hierarchies are not only natural but preferable to any other social system that attempts to disrupt said natural order, all other aspects of fascism stem from this one line of understanding
BakerBagel@midwest.social 7 months ago
Social hierarchies are always going to be present, even anarchists believe that. Fascism just assumes that they are natural and inherent, while leftists beleive that those hierarchies should be voluntary or chosen by the people.
Just becauae you haven’t done any political reading doesn’t mean i don’t know what words read.
orrk@lemmy.world 7 months ago
the entire idea of the progressive moment is to abolish these hierarchies, then again the American “leftist” understanding is so fucked at this point that I can see you believing this, as most “communists” in the states are tankies, that would also explain the horrible misunderstanding of fascism along imperial lines, because you literally don’t have any other larger critical lens in the states, as most of you aren’t upset about the existence of hierarchies, but just have the feeling that you are not in your deserved spot of said hierarchy
kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 months ago
that’s a stupid definition of fascism.