they may be smart enough to avoid telling you they are voting republican.
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NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 months agoI don’t know anybody that votes republican because of their abortion stance that doesn’t also agree with the rest of the party’s policies.
anonono@lemmy.world 10 months ago
rynzcycle@kbin.social 10 months ago
Unfortunately I do, much of my extended family is what I call consistent Catholic. They oppose the death sentence, are in favour of funding good education and social programs, and yet, somehow every election they vote R because the pope tells them too. The only silver linings are that I think most of them abstained rather than vote for Trump and that they all live in a hard Red state anyway so they probably won't have much impact. Still drives me crazy though.
megsmagik@feddit.it 10 months ago
The Pope? Pope Francis is more “leftist” than some American leftist! Why do they feel that he would tell them to vote Republican? I don’t know how American Catholics perceive the church, I just hear a lot about evangelicals in the US
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Catholics is pretty much the only major Christian denomination that leans left/Democrat in the US. I can’t think of a recent pope that advocated or implicitly encouraged a vote for Republicans.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
US Catholic leadership is frequently right-wing and in conflict with Rome. Especially with the recent Pope telling them to quit the hateful rhetoric.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why would the pope comment on American politics? Let alone ne endorse a party?
And like someone else already said, the American leadership of the Catholic Church is really rightwing.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
There is a sizable anti-Catholic sentiment in the US. Many of the early colonizers came here to escape Catholicism. Even the KKK was anti-Catholic in addition to being super racist.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 months ago
An example of a political view with an implicit recommendation.
Up to you to decide if denouncement of fascism is applicable to American politics or not.
N0_Varak@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Episcopalians, despite often being called the Republican party at prayer, often lean pretty left actually.
rusticus@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I don’t know anybody that WILL ADMIT THEY vote republican because of their abortion stance that doesn’t also agree with the rest of the party’s policies.
FTFY
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I don’t live in the US, but from a foreign perspective, it seems like pretty much everything is heavily divided depending on political alignment - and increasingly so. From my perspective, it seems like there are basically no politically neutral news outlets or types of social media, and even locations seem to lean heavily towards a specific political direction. So it seems obvious that people are spoon fed into a specific alignment. Consuming news of an opposing view or communicating with anyone with opposing views just seems unnatural in those environments. So to me, it seems like political views is commonly a huge package deal.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It is. I have often questioned why so many of my own views align so well with so many others.
Is it just a coincidence? Assuredly not.
cerevant@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It is fairly common among Catholics. I’ve known some fairly progressive Catholics who are Republicans because abortion. Now, that isn’t to say that a good number haven’t bought into the divisive rhetoric and gone full maga, but that’s not where they started.
summerbistrorealness@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I know several. Very supportive of LGBTQ causes, conservationist, by all accounts would be considered “woke” by the ilk. But anti-abortion so they voted for Trump.
Enigma@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
My mom was one. Didn’t realize until I was older, and long after she died. But yeah, she only voted Republican because she was anti abortion. She had an abortion and suffered from unintended side effects and didn’t want other women to experience the same. I get where she was coming from, but she definitely had the wrong idea with banning abortion.
Oddly enough, it was a comment on Reddit that opened my eyes to everything. Something along the lines of “Dems don’t want women to have abortions. But we’d like the choice if need be.”
mookulator@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Wow I’ve never heard of someone wanting to ban a medical procedure all together because they experienced an adverse effects of it. Thanks for the view into a psyche that I didn’t know about.
violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
You’ll see the same with some detransitioners.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Scientists can tell with like 80% accuracy what the political identity of an American is… just from a brain scan.
If the prefrontal cortex is larger and more active, that person is likely to be empathetic and use higher reasoning to control their emotion. Those people overwhelmingly vote Dem.
If the amygdala is larger and more active, then that person is more likely to feel fear or anger and act based on those emotions without thinking.
Then there’s the 20% where they’re just kind of average and it’s a coin toss.
That is why a woman can view her individual experience decades ago with an abortion and use that to rationalize not letting any woman get one now.
She’s not empathetic enough to understand other women may be in a worse spot than she’d have been if she kept.
She isn’t using the critical thinking to understand decades of medical advancement means it’s a lot safer now.
But she is still in fear of her bad outcome.
And she’s still angry she had complications.
If it doesn’t make sense to you, it’s because you’re brain isn’t working the same as the other side. The tragedy is only one side is usually able to understand it. The other side just keeps ranting about crazy shit because they’re constantly terrified or pissed off about a hypothetical.
Nimrod@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Do you have a source for this?
NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 10 months ago
Really? You want to try and play that card mr mengele?
Erk@cdda.social 10 months ago
This is the kind of factoid you shouldn’t spread unless you’re prepared to back it up with a lot of hard data and sources, since you’re essentially arguing biological superiority over your opponents. Very little comes from that
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 10 months ago
I guess you can find victims of pseudo science that after suffering from them become activists against it. Abortion is rutinary health care and ilegal abortions kill women. Better have a complication while in a health care that in the back alley of an ilegal abortion clinic.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That’s absolutely a thing. It’s partly because nobody listens to “1% will have a complication” because it’s so small and it’s probably going to be nothing, and outside of a handful of procedures it’s not really gone into depth. But when you’re that 1% and it’s bad it’s hard to acknowledge that the gamble was probably a good bet actually or at the very least it could’ve been and you made the choice. It’s especially rough when like abortion neither option has a high risk of serious complications, but the active choice is less risky. That one’s kinda rough on our neurological risk processing