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• helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ve never seen an artist on Bandcamp that I actually recognize.

  Telling anyone to “just Google it” is proof that you have no intention of a good faith discussion.

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  • acastcandream@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Telling anyone to “just Google it” is proof that you have no interest in a good faith discussion.

    How on earth you could read what they wrote and say it’s in bad faith means either A) you don’t know what that term means or B) it’s become so diluted and repeated that it’s lost all meaning. Perhaps both idk.

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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      • Kissaki@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Please elaborate. Because they’re right, and you and the commenter you are defending are wrong. And they reasoned in what way.

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  • sunbunman@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bandcamp is good for indie artists and if you want to discover new artists. I’ve found quite a few diamonds in the rough on there. A surprising amount of metal / punk artists sell via Bandcamp if you’re into that.

    How is 'just Google it" not a valid option? This is literally how you can find 99% of all problems about the internet especially for finding legally where to buy digital products within the first few websites. You what is good for business when you’re trying to sell a product? Making sure its one of the first few, if not the first choice the customer gets when looking at the default search engine.

    Moving on from that I’m guessing getting in contact with the artist is not an option? Y’know the other 2 points?

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  • renard_roux@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are you sure you responded to the correct comment? 🤔

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• avatar@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Can I play devil’s advocate a little bit here, because I was really unaware that this ever worked for anything except indie artists on Bandcamp. So Bandcamp works for them or for discovering new music obviously.

  I didn’t know artists ever sold digital music on their websites, but that does make sense, so I checked - if I google Taylor Swift and go to her website, there it is, digital music purchase. Great.

  I went to U2’s website, and the only music I can buy there is vinyl. I don’t want vinyl, I want digital. You can buy merch, but I’m after music, not merch. Looking further, there’s all sorts of galleries and information about each album and song, but you still can’t buy the music.

  Other mainstream artists I googled didn’t even go that far. Googling them brought up a wikipedia link, social media links, tours. All stuff I don’t want. Now your list has “contact artist via social media” - setting aside the fact that it’s unlikely a popular mainstream artist will even reply to anyone at all about anything, this is a real point of friction. I don’t want to have to contact an artist to find out some alternative way to get their music. If I’m buying something online, there needs to be some way to buy it online and ready to go. If we have to wait a couple of days or weeks for a reply that may or may not come - the process failed.

  If I had to guess, they would probably say something like “it’s on spotify”.

  So yes it probably is a supplier problem, but it seems to me that this is happening for the majority of popular artists if a majority of music people like is mainstream. I assume if you like the majority of indie music then that’s probably not the case.

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  • sunbunman@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No worries, I’ll take your U2 example and try it from my end (I don’t listen to them so I can’t decide on what album(s) specifically you are looking for). I’m going to be frank, it was a pain, but I did find zdigital (7digital outside of Australia) selling their albums without physical media. But getting there, I had to see that the U2 website/publisher website did not even advertise it. It was like the 5th option on duckduckgo after searching for

    u2 digital download

    I’m sure you would have better luck if you slide in the specific album that you were looking for.

    Important to note is that you aren’t googling for that artist or album, you’re googling

    artist album digital download

    I do agree with you that mainstream artists and publishers are going down this route probably due to some deals with streaming services, but unfortunately that is the reality we live in now. Additional work will be required by the consumer to get what they want. If the publishers start completely stopping this at some point all I can say is that I have the disposable income to buy the products I want and I am going to get it. Whether the publishers sell it to me or not is their decision to make.

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  • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I suspect that big artists are making so much from streaming that they’re not concerned with direct to consumer. And that’s fine because they are the easiest to torrent.

    Bandcamp or whatever downloads website for small and torrent for big.

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• flit@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Also, when it comes to specific platforms, Apple Music is quite good, though they make it rather painful to buy music if you use Linux

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  • 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It is to be noted that while iTunes is DRM-free at this point (which is very nice and surprised me when I found out) it is unfortunately still lossy compressed audio which the perfectionist in me really doesn’t like :P

    Come on Apple, sell me your funny ALAC

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    • averyminya@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It is now? That’s cool Would have been nice to not have lost my entire childhood library because it was locked behind iTunes.

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    • flit@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh, I wasn’t aware of that. It doesn’t bother me that much, since I personally can’t tell the difference in audio quality, but that’s still unfortunate to know

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      • 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean same, but I’d still like to have lossless audio regardless :P

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