Comment on BMW

• sadreality@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah but facts like that hurt Germans too much, they get all uncomfortable about history.

  They want all that profit and tech, but no shame about how it was obtained

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is not at all a view that is based in reality, Germany has made it mandatory in their curriculum to learn about the atrocities committed by the Nazis in the war and bring the schools to concentration camps to drive home the depravity of their history.

    What a bullshit take. Germany is noted for how they have handled their history, in stark contrast to Japan who do not acknowledge the atrocities they committed and shy away from public knowledge of them.

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    • Poggervania@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Iirc I’m pretty sure they haven’t apologized for all the horrible shit Unit 731 did to the Chinese and actively go out of their way to pretend stuff like the Rape of Nanking never happened.

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      • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When I was doing history in Year 11 & 12 (junior and senior?) I had this incredibly strict, serious teacher. He was known throughout the school for his intensity, and his lack of tolerance for bullshit. When we covered the Rape of Nanking, he had gone through and sharpied out a paragraph on a handout. He told us that he wouldn’t normally try to shield his students from a part of history, but that this particular part was incredibly distressing.

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    • sadreality@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How many executives and shareholders were convicted for their crimes? Did any profits get dislodged? Seems like people who benefit front these crimes are still holding nice bags of profits and assets.

      Also, you glossed over how BMW and other corps would import slaves to work their factories. Do they teach that in German schools or just topics in vogue like camps?

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      • Pisodeuorrior@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It's taught in schools, and anyway, you're glossing over the fact that the poster above proved your claim wrong (Germans are all uncomfortable with their history), which is just plain false.

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      • Hasuris@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re making it sound as if everyone got off easy. Ww2 is the reason we’re going after war criminals in the first place. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

        This didn’t exist prior to WW2. While there certainly are many, that didn’t face any punishment or got to keep their benefits, there also have been those that got punished. The allies had to form a new state and rebuilt and most available personnel had worked in the administration or economy of nazi Germany before and was guilty to some degree. There was nobody else and times were changing fast. A new conflict was on the horizon and life had to go one. So they had to work with what they had.

        Mistakes were made but this has never been done before. Punishing a whole country and its people is what made the Nazis possible and successful in the first place. I’d not be so sure it would be done any different today. I’d say we’d probably struggle even more and fumble the whole thing even harder.

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      • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Concentration camps are so in vogue.

        You must be so tired from moving those goalposts.

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  • JudahBenHur@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

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    • sadreality@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      "they get all uncomfortable about history."

      Looks like I do ;)

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      • JudahBenHur@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You haven’t made me fee uncomfortable, if that’s what you’re implying.

        Man I just had a look at your comment history, and noticed you haven’t posted anything at all.

        Good luck trolling around the internet, uninvited, talking as if you’re a fountain of wisdom.

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  • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Add another sad little troll to the ban pile.

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  • Pisodeuorrior@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That's not true at all, Germans make a big effort in remembering what they did and making sure it keeps being remembered.

    As opposed to my country, Italy, where the attitude after the fall of Mussolini was "uh, oh well".

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    • thisNotMyName@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Let’s just not talk about it was very common practice for like 40 years after the war in Germany, too. But today it’s a totally different story (luckily). Can’t be remembered enough especially when looking at the political directions the western world is heading to right now…

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    • NathanielThomas@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Italians get the flair “side switcher” in the awesome subreddit 2WesternEurope4u. Probably the main thing I miss about Reddit.

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  • elia169@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    this reads like a joke, it's so far from what i see from germans and germany.

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    • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They were getting Germany confused with Florida and profit/tech with alligators/meth. Easy mistake.

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