Yes. I will never trust anything that Meta or anyone associated with it say. They can try to spin whatever bullshit they like with their PR speak, but fundamentally they are out to make money.
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athos77@kbin.social â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
âI know thereâs a ton of skepticism about Meta entering the fediverse â itâs completely understandable,â Cottle says. âI do want to kind of make a plea that I think everyone on the team has really good intentions. We really want to be a good member of the community and give people the ability to experience what the fediverse is.â
If I wanted Facebook shitposts and forwards from KlanMa, I'd've joined Facebook. And I don't believe Meta has good intentions, I believe they want to overwhelm the fediverse, and I believe they want to make money. Middle-manager Cottle and their team may have good intentions, but corporate certainly doesn't, and I certainly don't trust their users.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
Agreed.
MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
Iâm not particularly worried about it. I can block them if they annoy me. And on the bright side, their large user base may help make the Fediverse mainstream enough to topple the tech giants.
FfaerieOxide@kbin.social â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
You can't topple a tech giant with tech giant tech users. The fuck?
jarfil@beehaw.org â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
Network effect. Users need the ability to connect to most other users, in order for them to start leaving the tech giant.
FfaerieOxide@kbin.social â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
Users need the ability to connect to most other users
They can leave meta and do that right now.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
I want to connect and talk to people from the Metaverse (Facebook and Threads, is it called like that?) without using their account and applications. Meta connecting to Fediverse is a good move in my opinion and what the world needs (Iâm not sarcastic at the moment). In fact, I wish every company in the world offering social media would connect to the Fediverse. We have builtin ways to block other instances if we donât like them. Hell even Reddit should do itâŚ
Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
Yeah, I love the idea of the fediverse because it creates a democratized community where anybody can choose to listen to who they want. Unfortunately this attracts very clicky users that feel like they own the fediverse and want to push others out. Iâve seen it a couple times already with people clambering to defederate other instances they donât like. Thankfully we can just choose to not listen to them, lol.
I donât like Facebook and I understand the concerns that Facebook will sort of take over the fediverse from the inside like a parasite. But at the end of the day you can just spin up a vanilla instance and connect with anyone willing to do the same. Thatâs whatâs great about the fediverse.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
You have just made a solution to a problem that shouldnât exist in the first place.
Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
If youâre talking about the problem of someone acting like they get to decide who is allowed and what happens on the platform, I agree in principle, but thatâs why the fediverse exists.
PrimalHero@kbin.social â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
I can't see anything good coming from a company that actively spreads hatred and racism. Most of came here to get away from reddit and I keep everyone saying fuck spez, fuck reddit but hey let's invite someone who 100 worse than spez to the fediverse. Someone who has no morals at all, someone who admits he doesn't care about privacy. Why? Just so that fediverse can grow? Is it really worth it? So you can speak with friends on threads? Make a threads account and use an ad blocker to talk to them.
I don't mind bridging with other protocols like bluesky but I don't not see any value in federsting with threads it will only fil the the fediverse with so much crap that we will not able to block it.
Well that is my opinion anyway
TwilightVulpine@kbin.social â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
I don't think isolationism is going to help the Fediverse thrive, or that there are no worthwhile users on Facebook platforms that could be persuaded to come this way if they get to see what it's like.
Having to deal with toxicity from that would suck, but it's not as if the Fediverse is this pure untainted land either. Worst comes to worst, instances can defederate them.
PrimalHero@kbin.social â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
I am not saying we should completely isolate us. As I said I open with bridging with other protocols. But I am against fedeting with Facebook because yes we are not a pure land but in comparison to the hell that is Facebook it's better here.
Defederating with other instances can only do so much if not everyone does it
thingsiplay@beehaw.org â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
(hi ya!) Yes, totally understandable. The thing is, I am not inviting spez or suckerburg, but the users. They donât take control over Fediverse and we have the ability to block any instance or person we want. Itâs not just that Fediverse can grow, but so that it becomes the standard protocol to communicate with others. Fediverse isnât a specific platform. Itâs basically asking for every game company open to cross play games or that Windows users can write with Linux users through web technology, with their favorite applications, accounts and servers. Finally we have an universal protocol that can be adapted by anyone, similar to what HTML became for websites.
I understand the concerns, and there is also a reason why I left Facebook over 10 years ago, donât use Twitter and Reddit.
PrimalHero@kbin.social â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
I get what you say but Facebook is full of toxic users it's not suckerberg the problem. And defederating will not help because you will have to defenderate also with instances that want to federate with Facebook or else the messages will eventually come through. At least that how I
understand federation works. So eventually you would have to fediverses.
I would love to have a unifiying protocol but I really don't think it will work. It will split people eventually someone will fork the protocol so that it can not federate with Facebook, splitting it.
helenslunch@feddit.nl â¨3⊠â¨months⊠ago
Its a double edged sword. On one hand, what you mentioned. On the other, if any other instance moderated the way Meta does theyâd be siloed on the Fedi.