It may be due to Microsoft demanding certain minimum configurations: at the very least minimum resolution and minimum frame rate. On PC you can always go down to 240p and/or live with 10fps in very high density scenes. Microsoft can (and will) just say “no” if they try that on the Xbox S
Comment on Baldur’s Gate 3 Delay Shows The Xbox Series S Still A Headache For Developers
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
The Series S specs exceed all the listed minimum specs on the BG3 Steam page for PC. How is the Series S holding anything back when they apparently support their game on shittier PCs?
Dum@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I understand that but surely the articles should be “developers lie about minimum specs on PC” surely. I believe the concept of a lower priced and accessible console should be encouraged. If that means developers have to try a little harder to support people who buy a cheaper console then so be it.
Dum@reddthat.com 11 months ago
I guess that’s debatable, depends on how you define what “it runs” means. PC gamers with dated hardware may be fine with playing on 1080p, while on the Xbox Microsoft might veto if it doesn’t run on 1440p and 30fps. Of course weaker hardware won’t run everything faster hardware can, you can’t just sprinkle infinite magic optimization dust on a game, there are simply limits what’s possible with weaker hardware, and once you’ve reached them you can’t just shout “enhance” like in CSI Miami.
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
So MS enforcing a level of quality is a good thing then. The alternative is 12 fps at 720p.
IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 11 months ago
Probably because MS wants feature parity for both consoles. Like the minimum PC spec most likely runs split screen like dog shit. But MS will not accept that for the Series S
Thadrax@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My PC is above minimum specs and BG3 ran really poorly even on low. Maybe they got a similar issue with the s.
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Yeah that’s the problem, they obviously lie about minimum specs on PC but that is OK for some reason. Xbox enforcing a quality experience for its users is somehow “holding the industry back”.
yesterdayshero@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But the Series S doesn’t run the PC game. Just like PC’s don’t run the Series S version of the game. I’m confused. If it was so easy, why isn’t every game available on every platform on day one?
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Mate the Xbox is a PC with better support and static specs. And yes Most games are available on every platform on day one.
yesterdayshero@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If it’s so straight forward, then what are the devs complaining about?
Microsoft requires they meet a specific standard on both the S and X, which is making it harder for them to do. They don’t build to every specific PC variant. But they have to build to both the X and S.
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
They’re complaining that their job is hard. People do that all day, every day, whether it’s a legitimate complaint or not.
They came up with those minimum specs somehow didn’t they? Either that built to those minimum specs, or……? And those specs are less powerful than the Series S. So here we are again!
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 11 months ago
The problem is that they have couch coop play. They struggle making it work with Series S. From what I understand, they cannot just make a separate version without coop just for Series S. All game features in Series X must also be available on Series S. I guess that’s a limitation imposed by Microsoft.
With PC you don’t have that limitation. If your computer can’t do couch coop then too bad for you. Minimum specs probably doesn’t account for coop.
I’m not sure why they don’t remove couch coop completely from the Xbox versions. Probably because they think it’s removing too much of their vision of the game.
teft@startrek.website 11 months ago
So because 5 people on the face of the planet don’t want to use the internet like modern humans the rest of us have to suffer? When was the last time anyone actually used couch coop? It was Halo 2 for me.
Nighed@sffa.community 11 months ago
A lot of people would love to have more split screen co-op (or Vs) games.
Its stupid that if I have a friend round I cant play a multiplayer game with them.
Katana314@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s an “if you build it they will come” issue. People stopped with couch parties because no games supported it anymore. When I’ve done it, most games in question had the option for internet play but it just wasn’t as social.
Lord_Logjam@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I have an X not an S, but my wife and I will absolutely be using couch co-op when this comes out.
anakin78z@lemmy.world 11 months ago
4 player co-op in Minecraft Dungeons, with the whole family, this year. I fucking love same device co-op games, but there are hardly any good options anymore, because apparently most people are either single or don’t like being in the same room as their partner or friends.
HellAwaits@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What does this have anything to do with the modern age? You’re making a massive assumption about something you know absolutely nothing about. Just because someone wants to use couch co-op doesn’t mean they don’t live in the modern age. What kind of dumb assessment is that? Also, are you unaware how DnD games are typically played? It’s-gasp-in person with other people. Wow!
h3rm17@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I constantly use it. I play with my partner, not with randos on the internet, not with friends. We live in the same house. We already bought 2 copies on PC to support the devs, but being forced to do so would be a shitty move. Also, when we have friends over, we do not expect them to bring their own PCs and shit if we want to game. Couch coop is where it’s at.