Comment on Leeds woman, 18, admits knife murder of 16-year-old love rival
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Absolutely horrific. The parents and schools and friends of that girl have failed her so badly that she felt it ok to stab someone to death. Horrible.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 2 days ago
Everyone at fault except the perpetrator. What a logic.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
Point to where I said this. Use your powers of logic and reasoning to show me where I said what you claimed.
Otherwise, fuck right off.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 days ago
PSA this is called a “strawman argument” and is a logical fallacy
A strawman is the construction of an argument not present in the original premise which is then argued against.
In this case the strawman is “everyone at fault except the perpetrator” (emphasis mine) the original premise did not explicitly exclude the perp.
SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Kinda curious now, roughly what age do we consider someone fully responsible for their actions, rather than parents/school?
From a society perspective rather than legally.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Completely personal opinion here: around 16 i should say. Thats the age when teens get to vote around here, get to drive (supervised), and generally start being considered individuals and not extensions of their parents. This goes on until around 21, with full legal maturity reached at 18.
So, by the age of 16 i believe a person is developed enough to know literally stabbing someone to death is deeply wrong, especially over something as absurd as some boyfriend. Of course apparently her guardians utterly failed to impress that on her, so they should share some of the blame, but she did a premediated murder. Killed someone, and planned it. Throw the book
Hanrahan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
well, here in Australia states have adult crime, adult time bullshit from as young as 12. Can’t consent to giving some 19 yr old a handjob, can consent to being a master criminal and being treated like it.