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American Free speech - but only to an extent, after that you’ll have to deal with government interference.

solid list. reality check: do you think this kind of stuff happens exclusively in the US?

do you think other countries aren’t trying to influence the rest of the world?

When russia gives someone tea with polonium as sweetener?

I agree, the US has a ton of horrid shit in its history, and we don’t seem to be improving. but there’s a lot of space between “at some point or another, almost all nations do wretched and awful shit. because they’re ALL made of humans”

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DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
All states have propaganda campaigns against specific things/areas of discussion.

American (like most western “liberal” democracies) heavily targets leftist causes, such as Communism, Anarchism, Socialism, Peace movements, and anti-climate change movements.

Many of which threaten to protest oil companies, the millitary industrial complex, domestic spying on citizens, big polluters, industries that want to under pay workers, billionaires.

As a Westerner I find that list of causes to be much more representative of things I want fixed and addressed in democracy than I do there being too many tankies, communists, and Socialists.

So my gripe is about proportionality. The powers that be would prefer we focus on tankies and the ills of historical communism - because it makes as divided and focused there rather than on Capitalism.

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- mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  The powers that be would prefer we focus on tankies and the ills of soviet era communism -
  
  lol.
  
  I never consider the ills of soviet era communism until tankies show up trying to convince me they had a utopia.
  
  I spend absolutely zero time pontificating about mao, or stalin, or communism, or collectivism, any of it, until some asshole slinks in and starts talking shit about ‘the west’ as if their own side never Holodomor’d a bunch of innocents the way we trail-of-tears’d people here.
  
  you don’t think the people living in ‘the east’ lived some kind of perfect, ideal lives, do you? that would be silly. why would we expect it on either side?
  
  we’re all fucking humans. none of us is better than any of the others based on geography or ideology, and a lot of us are wretched assholes when we get into a position of authority.
  
  uniquely western? pfft
  
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  - Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I’m with this guy! 👍🏼✊🏼
    
    Fuck off tankies (like in general)!
    
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