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electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
Homie, it was about the economy. I wish USAmericans would give a fuck about anything else, but it was the gas prices.
CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 16 hours ago
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
I’m pretty sure 2024 was about the racism. The price of eggs was an excuse so they didn’t have to admit it was the racism.
We’re still guessing, but there were a lot of factors at play. Yes, runaway inflation, the affordability crisis and the global energy crisis felt at home were all large factors.
Curiously – and this brings me hope – open corruption and self-dealing by the Trump family and Republican pay-to-play politics was also a large factor. People are really vocal about it.
Weaponization of government departments, like the DoJ going after political enemies or state election boards, was a factor.
ICE and the concentration camps are a factor, though not as much as it really should be. This motivated the Latin flip.
After the gutting of the VRA and the southern-state gerrymanders, the US Black vote responded Oh, HELL NO!
The broken MAGA promises, the still-elusive Epstein files, the war in Iran after a promise of no more forever wars, pushed some MAGA true believers to the fringes of their movement. They just failed to show.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
I don’t think so. Yes, the US is very racist in a lot of ways, but the reason Harris lost was because the Biden admin failed to do anything to substantially improve anyone’s life, and she didn’t appear credibly different. Biden was elected purely over dissatisfaction with Trump, but that wasn’t enough for a second win. We are in the same place right now. Dems won on dissatisfaction, but they’ll need to deliver results to win again in 2028.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The reson Harris lost was a dogshit planning with a cancer stricken candidate as vehicle. From the current perspective it looks like she was counting on Biden winning and then leaving the position due to health issues.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
We already had a term with Trump, and knew how that worked out. On the campaign trail, Trump also said what he intended to do. His dictator for a day fantasies made his malevolence super clear. His promises were entirely implausible. (E.g. I Will end the Ukraine conflict in the first week.)
And then there was project 2025 which described how the Republican party planned to dismantle federal regulatory bodies and neuter federal elections.
No. They said so. #IVotedForThis — They wanted to see brown children back in cages again. They wanted a Schutzstaffel to disappear the undesirables. They didn’t care the patrician class was going to plunder the US treasury and its credit.
Of the severity-seven million American voters in who chose Trump, hundreds, maybe might be ignorant idiots, but most of them were malevolent. They still are.
To be fair, they’re also under the influence of a massive far-right propaganda machine that dominates social media and television viewership. FOX News uses the same brainwashing techniques that were used on US soldiers in Korea.
I understand the Democratic party postmortem suggested it was more benign issues, (trans athletes) but then I’m pretty sure that part of the party is captured and controlled opposition. They have cause to present a biased analysis.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I understand the Democratic party postmortem suggested it was more benign issues, (trans athletes)
Nobody cares about trans athletes. Harris lost because she never touched important stuff. Yes most of the people agree that abortion should be right of every woman. NO this is NOT an issue that will sway their votes one way or another. Average US citizen doesn’t care about war in Ukraine. But they do care about Epstein files. And all they got from Biden was 5 years of silence.
My only conclusion is that dems live in their own echo chamber.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
You’re describing what motivates Trump’s base. They are in a cult, but they don’t win elections on their own. Believe it or not (and I don’t like it either), most people just care about their own lives.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
The implication was that it was about social media propaganda too…
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
I know. I’m saying it wasn’t.
Kenny4tunes@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Any other reason, then they’re policies sucking
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
BTW your gas prices are high partly because whole US infrasttucture is built around exporting locally produced oil. Not turning into products. This is a structural defect noone ever bothered to fix
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Gas prices, grocery prices, ICE raids, school closures, job losses…
It was a lot of things
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Yeah, I meant gas prices as shorthand for the economy in general but you’re right. I’m not so sure about the ICE raids. If the economy was doing well, I don’t think they would have moved the needle, sadly.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
El-Sayed doesn’t win Michigan without Trump going into Minnesota like he’s on a coke bender. Acton in Ohio and Hinojosa in Texas, too.
So much of the county absolutely hates this shit.