Comment on YOU HAVE HURT THE FEE-FEES OF THE CHINESE PEOPLE!1!!!

yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hitler intentionally killed about 5% of noncombatants in Nazi-controlled areas of Europe. We aren’t including soldiers at all. Under Mao, around 2.5% of China died in famines that could be partially attributed to aggressive industrialization. Arguing that Mao was worse for mismanaging industrialization than someone that industrialized mass murder to deliberately kill undesirables is horrendous historiography. It isn’t a coincidence that Mao is near universally loved in China while Hitler is near universally hated in Europe.

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  • Captain_Stupid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    .ml lmao

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  • Forester@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So wait can we just summon you like this?

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I respond to what I feel like. Sometimes people @ mention me, but I’m not a whimsical gnome or anything, I just browse by subscribed.

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  • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is it me or you just placed a whole paragraph of arguments in somebody’s 10 words post just to Terry to win an internet fight nobody else knew was happening?

    Because that’s just sad.

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      One paragraph takes very little time to write.

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      • Postimo@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        These are the ipad children we’ve left behind 😔

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• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Uh... hell no? Mao fucked up hard, but ultimately he fucked up; he wasn't in it to kill people. Saying he's worse than the Hunger Plan guy is frankly ridiculous.

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• gastroglizzy@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hitler executed about 8 million people, about 6 million of whom were jews.

  Stalin starved about 20 million people.

  Mao oversaw the Great Famine, following his order to kill all the sparrows in China, which lead to the starvation of 60 - 80 million people, depending on who’s counting.

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  • psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why the hell do deaths under communism always seem to include every person who died from any cause not from old age, while the deaths of fascism only include people who were executed?

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    • logi@lemmy.world ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Because a communist dictator coming into power is often followed by severe mismanagement and famine and the deaths of millions. It’s not the same sort of evil as killing people deliberately, but they’re equally dead.

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wikipedia lists the range of estimates for the famine as 15-46 million, so your numbers are beyond even the high end of that.

    It also lists the number ]killed by the Nazis](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Nazi_Germany) in mass killings as 11 million, which doesn’t account for at least 39 million combat deaths in the European theater of WWII, which Hitler started.

    I’m not sure why you feel the need to minimize Hitler’s death toll or inflate Mao’s, as if even the lower range was not a dismal failure. The policy was so much of a failure that overall life expectancy in China stagnated, before continuing it’s meteoric rise. You can see it very clearly around 1960 in this graph:

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    • Glide@piefed.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hmm…

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Relevancy?

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