Comment on Anon's friend gets exposed

• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m just tired of the non stop infantilization of women.

  Really, anyone younger than the reader’s age. It’s how you get some moldy NYT editor insisting 40-year-olds (of the wealthy and powerful) described in the same language as a child.

  Simultaneously, we get low income school kids caught in drug stings or busted for petty vandalism or arrested for loitering described as adults.

  And don’t even get started on abortion or gender affirming care. Too young to decide for yourself, but never too young to be prosecuted as an adult.

  Feels like we’re always moving the goalposts on when adulthood begins.

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  • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Old enough to go to war and die, can’t drink a beer.

    Make it make sense, and no I don’t mean lower the drinking age.

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• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  you don’t think it’s creepy when some 40 year old is dating 18 year olds?

  see, I think there are social pressures, verbal and nonverbal cues, mores - whatever you want to call it, that aren’t infantilizing a woman being creeped on by old assholes. they’re expressing a discomfort with something that rarely succeeds and often disrupts normal development.

  I’m old. I’ve never seen a 40 year old woman dating an 18 year old man. Ever. I’ve lived in 20+ states and 3 other countries. My experiences aren’t evidence against, but they tell me enough; especially compared to the troves of women I know personally who were catcalled, propositioned, groped and more by men old enough to be their grandfathers, many not even women yet - girls.

  So stop worrying about the ‘infantilization’, it’s not a problem compared to the other end of the spectrum, where women and girls are being sexually objectified, groomed and harassed by grown men.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    you don’t think it’s creepy when some 40 year old is dating 18 year olds?

    The post said 27 and 20.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m just tired of the non stop infantilization of women. Not to mention the only times I really see people commenting on age gaps, they end up being men.

      I’m talking to creepy poster above. come on man, in order to follow the thread of the conversation you really need to read them in order otherwise get your notepad out and take notes

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The age gap under discussion was 20 and 27, and 18 and 40.

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  • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    especially compared to the troves of women I know personally who were catcalled, propositioned, groped and more by men old enough to be their grandfathers, many not even women yet - girls.

    Yeah here’s the problem, an 18 year old woman being with a 40 year old man is nothing like a young woman being sexually harassed by men they don’t know. Trying to conflate the two is ridiculous.

    It might be rare. It might be odd to you. You are in no way capable of deciding for either of them what is right for them. Especially considering you, for whatever reason, think being a gold digger is the same as being groomed.,

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      no, it’s creepy and you know it.

      this isn’t controversial it’s common, and you know it. trying to reframe it this way is asinine and deluded.

      That’s not even addressing all the other harmless ways an 18 year old woman finds herself with a man much older than herself.

      pfft sure thing creep

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      • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        no, it’s creepy and you know it.

        What a substantive argument, you really put me in my place.

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